Abortion
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UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 03:33
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Of course she deserved it, dirty sinners, dirty sinners all.
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
That or some scared teenager dies in childbirth alone. I'm not exaggerating. Probably the most famous case here was Anne Lovett, a 15 year old girl who died on the 31st of January 1984. She'd gone to a "grotto" (an outdoor Catholic shrine to the Virgin Mary) and died of exposure and bleeding, along with her baby, after four hours in the cold and the rain.
Thankfully there are people who have some compassion and don't judge because they have little real experince of life outside of the sheltered upbringing they assume everyone got...
Well, living in a country where the prime example given to every schoolgirl is a virgin mother doesn't help much. "Here you go ladies! An ideal it's physically impossible to live up to without divine intervention!"
I have to admit, my first reaction to the birth control/don't have sex comment was a pretty sarcastic "Oh, gee! I never thought of that!" Which is bitchy I know, but seriously, there are very few women who choose a painful procedure that has a risk of pretty nasty complications over the pill, or asking the guy to wear a condom. And that's leaving aside the whole don't-bother-having-sex-in-the-first-place thing. None of those options takes from the fact that unwanted pregnancy happens, and when it happens it has to be dealt with. I'm not saying abortion is always the right answer. What I'm saying is that it has to be a legal option. Because the reality is that if it isn't it just becomes an illegal one.
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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
The thread was titled "abortion"....very simple...I gave my opinions through my post. If the dolt responding to it doesn't have the slightest scintilla of a clue as to the nature of my post it's not my problem.
It's been said that one can judge a man by his enemies. If that's true, you should wear their insults as a badge of honor.
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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
None of those options takes from the fact that unwanted pregnancy happens, and when it happens it has to be dealt with. I'm not saying abortion is always the right answer. What I'm saying is that it has to be a legal option. Because the reality is that if it isn't it just becomes an illegal one.
Nicely said!
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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Ed,
According to you "Unfortunately, little smart-assed twits who think they're intelligent think they can just bully and name-call whoever they want to attack...or "whoever they deem a troll". People like that...armed with their little half-facts, their little links to obscure writing, and their obviously limited life experience, etc. make me just wanna vomit."
Yes, this is the antithesis of all you deem objectionable.
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Originally posted by rue:
I have a challenge for you. Come up with one - ONE - valid study that backs up any one of your notions.
Rue, hello.
Well, as every previous site I've ever quoted in any thread in which I've posted has been automatically dismissed by you (even when the quotes were from a Nobel Prize winner), I must conclude that you only accept studies which A) you've done yourself, or B) were done by persons you personally vouch for.
As such, can you please point to me one which you've authored which supports this supposition, so I can quote it to your satisfaction?
Lacking that, I'm sure nothing else I post (or any source from which I may quote) will matter the least with you.
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I've responded to your links with, I thought, a resonable debate. Just b/c you post them doesn't mean I have to accept them. But I DO indicate what I find deficient. AFAIK that's an invitation to discuss.
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I read the study.
It did say that those who had had abortions left home earlier, has less schooling, were poorer, were in 'cohabitation' arrangements etc. In other words, were different from the comparison population.
And I noticed that the study didn't individually follow the participants, so while there is association between data there is no clear cause and effect. In other words the depression etc could have been the reason for the woman to seek an abortion rather than the effect.
And I find this to be of interest:
"In New Zealand, the provision of legal abortion is determined by the Contraception, Sterilisation and Abortion Act, 1977 and overseen by the Abortion Supervisory Committee. The Act requires that certain criteria are met before allowing a woman to undergo a legal abortion. Firstly, women must approach their doctor and are then referred to specialist consultants.
Two certifying consultants must then agree: 1) that the pregnancy would seriously harm the life, physical or mental health of the woman or baby; or 2) that the pregnancy is the result of incest; or 3) that the woman is severely mentally handicapped. An abortion will also be considered on the basis of age, or when the pregnancy is the result of rape."
So the abortion groups is pre-screened - they may already be victims. And, obtaining an abortion is contentious. There have been other studies (on rape, which I'll have to dig out) that show merely going through this process causes a sense of victimization, and its associated fallout.
Other studies (from other countries) don't indicate a negative effect. If there is one (and it's not entirely clear there is), it may be due to the NZ process for obtaining an aboertion.
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Originally posted by rue:
"Shiny"Ed,
As you see by my other post I reply very nicely and factually to posters who aren't jackass trolls.
Well, while not a troll, I'll certainly admit to bein a jackass, so for that do I get a...
(wait for it...)
Half-ass response ?
-F
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Erk? Rue's a girl ?
Not that it matters, but it totally blows the geeky college student type mental image I was holdin...
I'm not commenting on the topic, btw - said all imma say on it.
-F
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