Abortion

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CARTOON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:01 PM

I heard the following commentary by Chuck Colson today on his Breakpoint program, and I thought I'd post it here...

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During the thirty-fourth anniversary of Roe v. Wade, you heard a great deal about the victims of abortion. That phrase—for obvious reasons—nearly always referred to the tens of millions of unborn children who have been killed as the result of Roe.

But there is another group of victims whose plight receives much less attention: the women themselves. And the fault for this lack of attention can be laid at the feet of those who claim to be defending their “right to choose.”

A recent example of their plight is a study published in the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry. In it, researchers from New Zealand explored possible “linkages between unwanted pregnancy, abortion and long-term mental health.”

It is important to point out that David Fergusson, L. John Horwood, and Elizabeth Ridder were not setting out to prove that abortion is bad for women’s health. There’s no evidence, or even a suggestion, that they are partisans in the debates over abortion.

Instead, their goal was to either confirm or disprove previous studies that did find a link between having an abortion and things like “substance abuse, anxiety, hostility, low self-esteem, (and) depression.”

Using data from a longitudinal study of 25-year-olds in the Christchurch, New Zealand, area, they compared three groups of women: those who had never been pregnant, those who had been pregnant but had not had an abortion, and those who had had an abortion.

After controlling for factors such as socio-economic status and home life, they found “significant differences” between those who had had an abortion and those who had not. There were greater instances of depression, drug use, suicidal thoughts, and total mental health problems.

The authors concluded that their results were consistent “with the view that exposure to abortion was associated with increased risks of mental health problems”—the increases as much as 33 and 42 percent.

As I said, the authors were just looking for the facts. They are not partisans in the debate over abortion, but I am. So I will say what they did not: If some behavior or environmental factor increased people’s chances of serious health problems by more than a third, there would be outraged calls for regulation, or at the very minimum, they would demand adequate notice and warnings.

Any behavior but abortion, that is. As the authors of the study pointed out, theirs is but the most recent in a line of peer-reviewed studies that suggest that having an abortion is bad for a woman’s mental health.

Yet, giving that information to pregnant women is seen as an unacceptable infringement on their “right to choose.” It is the glaring exception to the overall trend today toward giving people more information—not less—about health risks.

Pro-abortionists apparently think that uninformed “choice” is the best kind. That makes their claim to be “pro-woman” ring hollow.

All of us ought to want women to know all the risks involved in having an abortion. They should know that there are two victims of what they are considering.

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=6013

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 3:19 PM

Hello,

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist or a team of psychiatrists to figure out that having your unborn child sucked out of you and buried is a traumatic, emotionally scarring process. I can't imagine anyone who does that and says, "Wheee!"

So this study goes into the no-shit category.

Also, even though they DIDN'T make a study of women who weren't prepared for a child and had one anyway- I'm willing to bet it's a traumatic, emotionally scarring process. One which breeds resentment, antagonism, and depression for years at least, and possibly the remainder of a woman's life.

Give me a PHD!

Fact is, there's nothing fun about either option. Neither option is going to be an amusement park ride.

That having been said, I don't want to see women dying in backshop clinics with coat hangers up their twats. I also don't want to see a woman forced to have a baby when the government isn't prepared to provide complete and adequate care for every unwanted pregnancy that occurs.

So I think we'll let the law stand as is, and God can sort it out with his infinite wisdom when the time comes.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:10 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

I don't think it takes a rocket scientist or a team of psychiatrists to figure out that having your unborn child sucked out of you and buried is a traumatic, emotionally scarring process. I can't imagine anyone who does that and says, "Wheee!"

So this study goes into the no-shit category.

Also, even though they DIDN'T make a study of women who weren't prepared for a child and had one anyway- I'm willing to bet it's a traumatic, emotionally scarring process. One which breeds resentment, antagonism, and depression for years at least, and possibly the remainder of a woman's life.

Give me a PHD!

Fact is, there's nothing fun about either option. Neither option is going to be an amusement park ride.

That having been said, I don't want to see women dying in backshop clinics with coat hangers up their twats. I also don't want to see a woman forced to have a baby when the government isn't prepared to provide complete and adequate care for every unwanted pregnancy that occurs.

So I think we'll let the law stand as is, and God can sort it out with his infinite wisdom when the time comes.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

Totally agree. Either way is an ugle, traumatic option. But I don't think the choice should be legislated away. Leave it as it stands.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

SIGNYM

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:11 PM

This is a really stupid study. Is it possible that depressed, drug-dependent women CHOOSE abortion because they realise that they're not parent material? It's the problem with any correlation: does A cause B, does B cause A, are they both caused by C, or are they coincidental?

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

SHINYED

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 6:39 PM

America markets abortion like vendors at the stadium ( 2nd largest advertiser in Yellow Pages ) Hey... Abortion ! Abortion ! Abortion !

Hey...get your red-hot abortion here!

No waiting...come on in today...baby-free tonite!
No guilt...for what? You only had sex...pshaw!!!
No money...Uncle Sam will pay the tab, no worries mate
No boyfriend/husband...been foolin' 'round?...we no care who the seed donor was
No scruples...you had good reasons to fuck
No morals...well you are over 8...so all is good
No clue who's the proud papa...we luv orgies' by-products
No idea when....we yank it whenever it was made
No age limit...40-90 our specialty...just one shot of our special clamato juice fixes ya right up
No age too low...we won't tell your mommy & daddy...dont worry
No self-esteem....hey now your'e popular I bet
No ability to say no...better to just let the boys get their way...why resist the fun?
No time limit...we got 8 months 30 days...ok!
We got 'em with mustouches and goatees....Hey
Hey...Abortions !hey..Abortions !..Get your Abortions here!

RUE

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:12 PM

"After controlling for factors such as socio-economic status and home life..." I think if they had measured pre-existing levels of "substance abuse, anxiety, hostility, low self-esteem, (and) depression" the study would be more compelling.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/355/1/1?query=TOC

Antiabortion claims w/out merit:

"a woman diagnosed with breast cancer while pregnant has a significantly longer life expectancy if she gives birth rather than aborting."
The National Cancer Institute finds no credible evidence to support these claims; indeed, a recent large meta-analysis found no such link.

"post-abortion stress syndrome."
This diagnosis is not recognized by the American Psychiatric Association or the American Psychological Association; a study of women's responses to abortions indicated that distress is greatest before the procedure and that there are few severe negative responses afterward

RUE

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:13 PM

Hey ShinyEd,

Do you work at being a douche bag or is it natural?

KHYRON

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
No time limit...we got 8 months 30 days...ok!

Lol!

Can't believe abortion is still an issue in the US. For that matter, can't believe gay marriage, the validity of global warming theory and the validity of the theory of evolution are still an issue, and that the death penalty is still allowed. And that "separation of state and church" apparently means politicians needing to be deeply religious and visit churches whenever they're running a campaign. And that overseas professors get beaten down for jaywalking.

Why, one might just get the impression that the US is a bit backward.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

SHINYED

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Hey ShinyEd,

Do you work at being a douche bag or is it natural?

Hey Rue,

Your reply to my post is downright nasty...why the attitude and name-calling?

Could it be that you are the result of an abortion gone terribly wrong?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
This is a really stupid study.

Yep.

And studies show 99% of all dead people do not excersize regularly.

I want a PhD too Chrisisall

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