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"The Static Drinking Game" - or - "Why Should I Support the Military?"

POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Friday, March 19, 2004 20:30
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Monday, February 23, 2004 3:11 AM

I never take part in off-topic forays, but I read some of this because a) I was intrigued by the 'Tash's first post and his heartfelt opinion and b) there were some elucidating contributing opinions.
Last, I think you're underpaid Static.

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Monday, February 23, 2004 3:49 AM

I will reluctantly apologize for my ripostes; reluctantly because I sure love a good scrap, apologize because I laid on with a little too much enthusiasm. Don't worry guys, the chirurgeon can fix ya right up, won't hardly leave a mark.

As for Iran, Static...just because there weren't any rounds in the clip didn't make their threat any less real. If NOTHING else, all the leaders of all the countries in the world who deal with and harbor terrorists, weapons of mass destruction, and tyranny are now convinced we, U.S., won't necessarily wait for them to strike first. They all know that our, U.S., defensive decisions are not in the hands of the U.N. They all know that decent, brave, and skilled people are ready and willing to do whatever is needed, whereever it's needed.

I sleep a lot better knowing they know that. Thanks for your part, soldier.

Matt Champine, lddirewolf@hotmail.com

Take my love
Take my land

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Monday, February 23, 2004 4:04 AM

(Wulfhawk) I was relieved when I saw your response to my post. I thought, perhaps someone might be able to pick apart what I said. Fortunately, I was dealing with you though. All you could do was call me names and say you wanted this thread to sink away. No doubt you do. You are not looking too good here.
After you first called me many names and I responded by calling you one name (a dumbshit), you have since called me about ten more names such as:
asshole,
flaming the shit out of everyone,
ilk,
lying,
cheating scum,
without honor.

...and then you have the gaul to post a statement like this? "just wanted to demonstrate that a fella didn't have to resort to grade school cursing to make a point."

You have thrown more names around than anyone else on this thread. Take a closer look.

To end with I'll quote your only wise statement - "see if you can come up with something better" than name-calling.

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Inara: Who's winning?
Simon: I can't really tell, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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Monday, February 23, 2004 5:02 AM


W:
it's alright to take the high road and not respond to trolling. By all appearance, it is now merely a desperate attempt to draw you out to look silly. Not respond will not show that you are a coward. The incessant taunts are below everyone who responded here.

On another note, I wanted to find out where we can take this into a natural course. The US's military is an all volunteer one, but I happen to be in the opinion that every citizen should be serve a compulsory period. What purpose would it serve? I believe that every abled body men and women should be given the training and the opportunity to witness the type of ordeal that one must go thru to defend their own land. People in the US have grown extremely complacent in their beliefs that sitting around and talking will always be sufficient to solve all of their problems - we all hope that it is. But it is not - not because we don't wish it so, but because there are shadows out there who will wish you harm whenever you are not attentive. I believe that having compulsory service will put every citizen on an equal playing field as far as having a common experience to draw their perspectives from. I am not saying to have every brainwashed into believing that the military is a great thing. Far from that, but it would certainly get everyone an understand of that experience. The unknown breed confusion and confusion breeds fear. We can take the conversation to another level by picking it out of the unknown - make it a common experience.

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Originally posted by Wulfhawk:
I will reluctantly apologize for my ripostes; reluctantly because I sure love a good scrap, apologize because I laid on with a little too much enthusiasm. Don't worry guys, the chirurgeon can fix ya right up, won't hardly leave a mark.

As for Iran, Static...just because there weren't any rounds in the clip didn't make their threat any less real. If NOTHING else, all the leaders of all the countries in the world who deal with and harbor terrorists, weapons of mass destruction, and tyranny are now convinced we, U.S., won't necessarily wait for them to strike first. They all know that our, U.S., defensive decisions are not in the hands of the U.N. They all know that decent, brave, and skilled people are ready and willing to do whatever is needed, whereever it's needed.

I sleep a lot better knowing they know that. Thanks for your part, soldier.

Matt Champine, lddirewolf@hotmail.com

Take my love
Take my land



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Monday, February 23, 2004 5:17 AM

I think that the government is already much too prevalent in our lives. They already tell us what to do more than they should.

If service in the military were compulsory, everyone still wouldn't have common experiences to draw from... the grunts would still be the grunts, etc. My brother is a doctor in the AF, and his experience during and after his service is going to be completely different than some 19 year old kid going in.

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Monday, February 23, 2004 5:29 AM


That's another thing that I want to discuss as well. Compulsory service (not necessarily a Compulsory Military Service ala conscription) will also allow each and every one to work the government. I think we are partly to blame in how we have came to view the government is a separate entity from us that we have so loose of a control over. The government belongs to us and works for us. We should only cede what responsibility over to them to keep public safety and keep from a mob rule. I truly think that most everyone have become so complacent and so wrapped up in their own little world that there isn't even much time for armchair politics anymore - participation is one way of understanding and taking control. Taking back control if you would.


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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I think that the government is already much too prevalent in our lives. They already tell us what to do more than they should.

If service in the military were compulsory, everyone still wouldn't have common experiences to draw from... the grunts would still be the grunts, etc. My brother is a doctor in the AF, and his experience during and after his service is going to be completely different than some 19 year old kid going in.



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Monday, February 23, 2004 3:57 PM

SO. . .

Mal's pistol. . .

pretty neat, huh?

It's obviously a 'slugthrower' of a unique design. . .I can't identify it as a pistol that currently exists, but something I've noticed with alot of the pistols in the show is that when the people 'cock' the pistol you get that little sound. . .not just the click, but sort of a 'power-up' sound. My theory is this. . .the weapons are electrically fired, meaning an electrical charge is what ignites the primer charge to fire the round. Just a thought.

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:20 AM

Static;

You are what, in some circles, is refered to as a mensch! If you can get that friend of yours to screen the BDM in North Carolina I will personally hop in my new Vibe and drive the many hours from Philly to buy you a beer (and I expect I will be SOOO not alone in this that your ability to focus at the end of the evening will be severely hampered!).

As for those guns ...I've always reconciled the little power-up sound to signify that, in addition to conventional hammer-strike-powder-ignition mode, there is an element of electromagnetic accelleration (a wee mass driver) in place, to increase muzzle velocity and thus stopping power. As a redundant system, the bullets could still fire without the boost (which would make it superior, in rustic settings, to, say "laaaasers" which leave you SOL if the juice dries up). Thoughts?

Keep Flyin'

Department of Redundancy Department

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Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:02 AM

where does the battery come into play?

...from rance burgess's laser gun in HOG?

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Wednesday, March 3, 2004 6:23 PM

The noise could be something else. It could be liquid propellant being pumped into the firing chamber.

I like the accelerator idea, it would allow smaller rounds and more shots. It would explain why guns need to be metal still (for the rails) and so on.

The cocking bit could simply be the safety part. Has anyone seen Mal fanning the hammer when he shoots rapidly? If not then the hammer isn't an important part of the firing mechanism and is something else.


MAL Which one you figure tracked us?

ZOE The ugly one, sir.

MAL (beat) Could you be more specific?

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