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Global Warming proven a hoax!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 02:11
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RUE
Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:33 PM

Rap,

Out of all your posts you've made two comments directly related to global warmming. Both were opinions. There isn't anything there for me to 'refute'.

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 23:26
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 00:07
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 11:04
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 11:25
We don't have enough data to know for certain whether climate change is caused primarily by the sun or falls in line w/in the normal heating/cooling this planet experiences over 1000's of yrs.
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 22:43
Kyoto nuts are guilty of the same thing....wanting to cherry pick evidence
Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 22:57
Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 03:08
Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 03:08
Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 23:02
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Friday, January 19, 2007 1:05 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Allow me to hold your coat while you try on thet Lemming suit.
With out any challenge or additional comment as to my stance, you fail miserably to make a ponit.


Clearly, my use of the lemming analogy was meant to be a commentary of how many folks blindly believe there is a man made Global warming crisis, and not a literal description of how lemmings off themselves by all jumping over a cliff. If I had used the ostrich-sticking-its-head-in-the-sand analogy, my MEANING would be understood, even though everyone knows that an ostrich really doesn't stick its head in the ground when scared. Think of how many ostriches would be feasted on by lions/hyennas, etc if instead of running away, they just stood there, heads stuck in the sand.

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Rap,

I hope you realize your posts are clearly beyond reality.



You can't debunk my posts, so you simply dismiss them, out of hand. Fact: The middle of what is now the United States use to be at the bottom of a shallow, inland sea. The state of Florida was completely submerged. Was it 'global warming' which caused water levels to reach so high? Or was it Noah's flood? If you said 'global warming', you'd be RIGHT! But it wasn't caused by mankind, as we weren't ready to make the scene until some 69,760,000 yrs later. Sorry Al Gore fans.

*sigh* Why am I even bothering with this crap.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "



Mr. Raptor Man, Sir, please provide evidence that Global Warming is a natural effect.

To show causality here in the science world, we need a few things:

1) We need something that when you increase it, the temperature increases.
2) We need something that when you decrease it, the temperature decreases.
3) We need to remove other contributing factors and make sure that the relationship still exists.

So, if it's caused by nature, I'll need you to provide me with data that correlates biomass to temperature (here's a hint as to why you'll fail with that one; the Earth is currently more deforested than it has ever been, habitats are shrinking faster than they have ever been, and the number of species going extinct in comparable to the mass extinction that killed the Dinosaurs; after that one, the temperature went down, not up).

That evidence appears to indicate that global warming is not solely due to nature.

Now let's talk about removing mitigating factors; that would be man. In order for you to prove that it's not man-caused, you'll have to get rid of man-made emissions, because they're definitely affecting your data.

As for "man-made", here's some information for you. Your position relies on the assumption that greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere are static; in fact, these gases are in constant flux and without human sources of CO2, plant life would be sufficient to maintain the temperature at a healthy rate of change (i.e. one that will cause gradual weather changes and sea level increases, then recycle that into decreases). Generally, animal populations are at an equilibrium of not increasing, and so their emissions don't increase, so the *amount* of greenhouse gases does not go up because plants maintain it.

There are problems happening right now with this system:

1) We are cutting down forests like never before, decreasing the earth's ability to deal with CO2 and maintain balance.
2) We are killing animals like never before, which *should* decrease the temperature. All it's doing is decreasing the share of CO2 that animals make.
2) We are burning fossil fuels like never before, making man the only source that increases its CO2 output.

Other sources like water vapor, ozone, etc, are still at a relative equilibrium and so we're okay.

Essentially, we are totally screwing an equilibrium that was per

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Friday, January 19, 2007 1:26 AM

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Originally posted by freeradical42:
Mr. Raptor Man, Sir, please provide evidence that Global Warming is a natural effect.


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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Allow me to hold your coat while you try on thet Lemming suit.


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Originally posted by rue:
PN, Rap,

I hope you realize your posts are clearly beyond reality.
...
Out of all your posts you've made two comments directly related to global warmming. Both were opinions. There isn't anything there for me to 'refute'.



Guys.

Please don't feed the trolls.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, January 19, 2007 1:29 AM

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We don't have enough data to know for certain whether climate change is caused primarily by the sun or falls in line w/in the normal heating/cooling this planet experiences over 1000's of yrs.


That isn't merely MY opinion, but the opinion of a host of accredited scientist which are so often ignored by the 'mainstream'. So, you dismiss their views out of hand.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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RUE
Friday, January 19, 2007 1:32 AM

"That isn't merely MY opinion, but the opinion of a host of accredited scientist which are so often ignored by the 'mainstream'."

Please provide data. All you've done so far is make unsupported claims, which is why your posts fall into the category "opinion".

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RUE
Friday, January 19, 2007 1:35 AM

Hi Citizen,

Well the board's been kinda slow. Sometimes feeding the trolls is what passes for conversation.

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Friday, January 19, 2007 1:47 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:


Guys.

Please don't feed the trolls.


If there's pizza in it for me, I'll be a troll....

You know nothing...grrrr..you are all straw men...science doesn't matter,,,argggg go ahead with the ad hominems, you asshats...grrrr,...that's what all your kind say....Bush cares for our environment! *spittle shoots from mouth*
where's the corporate love?...go live in China where they really polute....grrrrr
only I know the truth...grrrr



Extra cheese please Chrisisall

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Friday, January 19, 2007 2:04 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
If there's pizza in it for me, I'll be a troll....

You know nothing...grrrr..you are all straw men...science doesn't matter,,,argggg go ahead with the ad hominems, you asshats...grrrr,...that's what all your kind say....Bush cares for our environment! *spittle shoots from mouth*
where's the corporate love?...go live in China where they really polute....grrrrr
only I know the truth...grrrr



Extra cheese please Chrisisall

You can have a knuckle sandwich

About the limit of my wit at 2AMIsAll...



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Friday, January 19, 2007 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:


You can have a knuckle sandwich


Food fit for a troll....no thanks, I'll pass.

No troll Chrisisall

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RUE
Friday, January 19, 2007 11:26 PM

MMMMmmmmmm ..... :slobber: ... knuckle sandwich ... mmmmmmmm .......

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