Firefly Sets Yet Another Record!

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UPDATED: Friday, February 23, 2007 02:07
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WINDIE

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:02 PM

DonCoat,

If you really want a reasonably priced HD drive the xbox360 one works fine with an XP PC.

Just for info.

As for the torrent thing I neither care or am concerned. As far as I can see non of the so called big wig's at any of the studios care about their products enought to carry things through to a conclusion. The number of shows that have been cancelled over the last couple of years is quite shocking.

All that studios/tv stations appear to be interested in are either so called reality shows or long winded/ lets drag this out things like lost ( I enjoyed the first season but bloody hell the writers must be on acid or something for the rest of it). Any way tiny rant over.

Why have they taken the sky from ME

SHINYED

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Razza:

I hear you wholeheartedly about stealing. I would submit that the only one's stealing in this case are the movie studios. What else do you call selling materials at exorbitant rates that would elicit a healthy profit at half the price? Regardless, I don't see pirating the items as stealing, so much as borrowing a friends copy before deciding to spend the dough on your own copy. I torrented every episode of the original Firefly series, so by your definition I'm a thief who stole from Fox Studios. Wrong again, I also bought two sets of the Firefly DVD's. Why, because the show was great and while I had every episode already, I wanted the actual DVD which has so much more to offer than shoddy bitorrent files. If movie and television producers put a decent product out there, they will make money on it, as evidenced by the fact that they still seem to make money hand over fist despite the easy availability of pirated material.

I would not consider borrowing someone else's products for your use stealing, and I do believe in a "test drive" for things that I want to buy. I suppose I'm too old and out of the loop to really keep up with today's technological options for obtaining free material....so don't think I'm trying to be a goody two-shoes, because I'm not. I just know that somewhere, somehow, someone has to pay for things...usually me I guess.

CAPTAINJOSH06

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:34 PM

Im looking on the long term side. If more people begin buying Illegal Copies of DVDs and Cds etc..., the record companies will eventualy go bust, investing in things which will in a short time people will get for cheep or almost free from download sites.

There is an even balance in the Record industry and if Piracy goes up, the balance will shift.

Im not normaly bothered, but in the browncoat world, Serenity going on Pirate copies is not an entirely good idea.
People swapping films or copying films for friends is in affect just as bad, but not on a wide scale like some Pirate set ups.

-CaptainJosh

DAREDEVIL

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:47 PM

ok emmmmmmmmmmmmm at least they set another record

DAREDEVIL

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:47 PM

ok emmmmmmmmmmmmm at least they set another record

RAZZA

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
Im looking on the long term side. If more people begin buying Illegal Copies of DVDs and Cds etc..., the record companies will eventualy go bust, investing in things which will in a short time people will get for cheep or almost free from download sites.

There is an even balance in the Record industry and if Piracy goes up, the balance will shift.

Im not normaly bothered, but in the browncoat world, Serenity going on Pirate copies is not an entirely good idea.
People swapping films or copying films for friends is in affect just as bad, but not on a wide scale like some Pirate set ups.

-CaptainJosh

CaptainJosh:

I appreciate your concern for the beleagured entertainment industry, but I submit that if they are unable to adapt to a changing world, they don't deserve to survive. I-Tunes has demonstrated what a successful business model offering music and media online can be, but instead of embracing and profiting from this success, the entertainment industry remains frightened by it. Artists by and large aren't concerned by people downloading their creations online. Hell, many artists offer free downloads of their music on their websites. They do this because it means they can distribute their works without the vaunted entertainment industry as a middleman sucking them dry on the coat tails of their talent. The Entertainment Industry needs to realize that there is huge money to be made offering these services to customers at a reasonable price. Piracy would be non-existent if such an alternative existed. I would much prefer downloading a quality product from the licensed manufacturer at a reasonable price to rolling the dice on a dubious pirated copy. Unfortunately, the industry is still under the mistaken belief that the only way they can continue to make money is to increase their prices and gouge the heck out of people who aren't able to take advantage of the pirating universe or who feel bad about "stealing" from the poor helpless Entertainment Industry. Sorry, I don't buy it, they only have themselves to blame!

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---Andrew Carnegie

"Doing research on the Web is like using a library assembled piecemeal by pack rats and vandalized nightly."
---Roger Ebert

CAPTAINJOSH06

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:54 PM

When you place the argument in that context then I agree, but as you have said Piracy isnt good and the Industry must adapt to eliminate the threat of illegal copies.

How ever, it depends on what you mean on reasonable prices, as Most Official things I see online are at lower prices than if you were to buy it off the shelves.
I bought a game off the shelves for £25 and saw that it could be bought from the internet for around £15 to £20. I honestly thought the game would cost £30+ as it was new, but it didnt.
Now such gaming companies like EA experimented with downloadable games. Personaly it was not a good thing as you had to use a software called EA downloader, and I blieve you pay once and can download the game again if u loose it using your account, how ever if you loose your account, then you got to rebuy the download....

I know games are not Films and so on, but changing the Industry in itself is also a very risky business and a gamble.

-CaptainJosh

MONKSDAD

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:00 PM

The story hit IMDB today... Any pub is good pub

http://imdb.com/news/sb/2007-01-17/

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

RAZZA

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
When you place the argument in that context then I agree, but as you have said Piracy isnt good and the Industry must adapt to eliminate the threat of illegal copies.

How ever, it depends on what you mean on reasonable prices, as Most Official things I see online are at lower prices than if you were to buy it off the shelves.
I bought a game off the shelves for £25 and saw that it could be bought from the internet for around £15 to £20. I honestly thought the game would cost £30+ as it was new, but it didnt.
Now such gaming companies like EA experimented with downloadable games. Personaly it was not a good thing as you had to use a software called EA downloader, and I blieve you pay once and can download the game again if u loose it using your account, how ever if you loose your account, then you got to rebuy the download....

I know games are not Films and so on, but changing the Industry in itself is also a very risky business and a gamble.

-CaptainJosh

Captain:

I suspect we agree more than disagree on these issues, but your example is indicitive of how the entertainment industry still hasn't figured it out. EA is one of the worst offenders of this shortsightedness. They have done nothing but put up obstacles for their titles when they try to bring them to the very successful xbox live experience, for example. Instead of doing what every other gaming company has done and using Microsoft's xbox live servers, EA has insisted on using their own servers for multiplayer games on xbox live. This has caused all kinds of havoc and the result has been a poor online experience for EA titles. Ask anyone who plays them on xbox live and you will quickly learn how much they hate EA and their obstinance on this issue. Why did they make it so difficult for you to download the game, and why the possibility that you may lose your game even though you paid for it? Could it be that they don't have a real committment to this kind of distribution model? Could it be that they have their head up their ass and can't figure out how much money they could make if they made it easier and could assure their customers that when they pay for something they own it? This is what I mean when I say the entertainment industry is to blame for a rampant pirate community, not a bunch of theiving scoundrels who just want free music, movies, and games. Sure such people exist, but the vast majority of people who download entertainment media from such sites are just like me and you. That is, willing to pay for a good product if they offer it to us in a simple interface at a reasonable price. For god's sake how can a bunch of "pirating loafers" figure out how to bring their product to market in a more effective and simple manner than industry itself?

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"There is not such a cradle of democracy upon the earth as the Free Public Library, this republic of letters, where neither rank, office, nor wealth receives the slightest consideration."
---Andrew Carnegie

"Doing research on the Web is like using a library assembled piecemeal by pack rats and vandalized nightly."
---Roger Ebert

CITIZEN

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Heard about this earlier today off of /. Quite frankly, all this has done is prove what everyone (including me) said about DRM. Namely, that it just won't work. In fact, there is exactly no way to secure this type of medium.

DRM is fairly easy to circumnavigate, for a start the best programmers never write the things, but some of the best untapped talent you can bet are working on breaking it. Whether its software music or film it will be broken within weeks of it becoming publicly available, and in many cases since these are nearly always generic protection routines licensed from some other company they will be broken long before release.

But none of these reasons is why DRM is a waste of time. The reason it is a waste of time is because it doesn't do what it says on the tin, in fact it does the exact opposite.

DRM is supposed to stop or dissuade someone from using/listening/watching without original copyright owner 'permission'. What DRM does is push the price up even further than the already scalped prices, making more people want to break the protection. What it does is merely inconvenience 'legal' users by constantly hassling them, or preventing them from using it legally because, as previously discussed, the routines are crap. I have a number of games for instance that I have bought and paid for that I have actually had to crack because the DRM doesn't work on my machine and it assumes that the disc must be counterfeit.

Meanwhile the pirates are using these things quite happily after breaking the DRM.

So well done to those who have created DRM, you've inconvenienced and alienated people who gave you their money, created more pirates and not harmed them one little bit, and far from dissuaded them.

Good job.

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