Firefly Sets Yet Another Record!

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UPDATED: Friday, February 23, 2007 02:07
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BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:22 PM

Here's hoping that the BDM being up on Bit Torrent will lead some new people to buy the dvd and join the browncoat ranks.

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SHINYED

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:01 PM

I guess I'm from another generation I suppose, but stealing is stealing...period! I know in today's world the young folks out there are quite used to downloading, copying, burning, etc etc just about every form of entertainment there is.... they feel they have a "right" to get whatever they want, regardless of any ability to pay for it, and without any remorse for stealing.

Some friendly advice from an old geezer....never steal, never be dis-honest, & always work hard. The "things" you obtain in life by working & paying for them are the most rewarding.

DONCOAT

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 2:57 PM

Well, for myself... since I already bought the HD-DVD of Serenity, I would feel no guilt about downloading this. Well, I might feel guilty about the heavy burden on my poor router.

I don't have an HD player yet (I'm waiting until the dual players come out so I can play either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray). It would be nice to be able to play the movie I own, now, wouldn't it? But AFAIK there are no HD-DVD drives for PCs available yet, at least not reasonably-priced ones.

As for pirating overall, I am in the mixed-feelings category. I deeply resent DRM and its horrendous impact on usability. For example, people are having a hard time setting up systems that connect HD players to HDTVs through an A/V receiver (using a digital link rather than analog/component video), because the player doesn't get the necessary handshake to the display. Ridiculous.

Further, I firmly believe that most people who pirate content (movies, music, or whatever) would never have paid for it in the first place, so the loss to the provider is minimal and probably offset by increased sales to those who found that material via the pirate channel, then bought legit copies and/or more of the same.

I'm an example of that, my own self. I've downloaded quite a bit of music from Usenet groups, but most of it is stuff I'd never buy, or stuff I already own on records, tapes, or CDs but didn't want to go through the hassle of ripping to mp3. There are definitely cases where I've bought CDs I never would have purchased if I hadn't found the artist online first.

And that's where I may differ from some other folks -- if I download something on the "black market" and find I like it and play it a lot, I make it a point to buy a legal copy. Part of that is because the CD almost always sounds better than an mp3 rip, but it's also to support the artists that I like.

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MIGHTYROAR

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:50 PM

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Originally posted by babywiththepower:
Well, considering Serenity already made the money Universal said was required to consider a sequel,

Did it? How much has it made, and how much were Universal after?

CMOTD

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:55 PM

they were after 40 million. I read that Serenity only made 25 million at the box office. How acurate is that figure?

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DEEPGIRL187

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 4:59 PM

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Originally posted by DonCoat:
I'm an example of that, my own self. I've downloaded quite a bit of music from Usenet groups, but most of it is stuff I'd never buy, or stuff I already own on records, tapes, or CDs but didn't want to go through the hassle of ripping to mp3. There are definitely cases where I've bought CDs I never would have purchased if I hadn't found the artist online first.

And that's where I may differ from some other folks -- if I download something on the "black market" and find I like it and play it a lot, I make it a point to buy a legal copy. Part of that is because the CD almost always sounds better than an mp3 rip, but it's also to support the artists that I like.

Here, here, DonCoat. I download MP3's, and it often leads to me buying the CD. If I do so, then I delete the MP3 from my computer. If I couldn't download MP3's, I'd be less likely to buy CD's, because I rarely listen to the radio or watch music videos.

I do want Serenity to be promoted by more legitimate means. This will make a sequel more receptive to the powers that be. But I also understand the feelings of people that buy a HD-DVD and can't watch it because it's not compatible with whatever. Fair use is fair use, and it's high time that those hundans stop stealing our lawufully given rights.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:02 PM

Quote:
Some friendly advice from an old geezer....never steal, never be dis-honest, & always work hard. The "things" you obtain in life by working & paying for them are the most rewarding.

True but I'm tired of buying stuff & being disapointed. I'd rather give it a quick listen/watch then, as DonCoat said, pay for the good copy for my collection. We just have to have faith that people who download will become browncoats.

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CAPTAINJOSH06

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:16 PM

I don't like Pirating, not only does it destroy the Industries, but this means that their will be a reduction(flux) in Official Serenity sales.
So anyone who wants to create a large income for the Industries and make them realise this is a very Popular Film/TV series, any of those plans could be seriously hindered.

This Bittorrent is not good and we should do well in making sure it is not hosted on any other Illegal download sites.

RAZZA

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I guess I'm from another generation I suppose, but stealing is stealing...period! I know in today's world the young folks out there are quite used to downloading, copying, burning, etc etc just about every form of entertainment there is.... they feel they have a "right" to get whatever they want, regardless of any ability to pay for it, and without any remorse for stealing.

Some friendly advice from an old geezer....never steal, never be dis-honest, & always work hard. The "things" you obtain in life by working & paying for them are the most rewarding.

Ed:

I hear you wholeheartedly about stealing. I would submit that the only one's stealing in this case are the movie studios. What else do you call selling materials at exorbitant rates that would elicit a healthy profit at half the price? Regardless, I don't see pirating the items as stealing, so much as borrowing a friends copy before deciding to spend the dough on your own copy. I torrented every episode of the original Firefly series, so by your definition I'm a thief who stole from Fox Studios. Wrong again, I also bought two sets of the Firefly DVD's. Why, because the show was great and while I had every episode already, I wanted the actual DVD which has so much more to offer than shoddy bitorrent files. If movie and television producers put a decent product out there, they will make money on it, as evidenced by the fact that they still seem to make money hand over fist despite the easy availability of pirated material.

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RAZZA

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
I don't like Pirating, not only does it destroy the Industries, but this means that their will be a reduction(flux) in Official Serenity sales.
So anyone who wants to create a large income for the Industries and make them realise this is a very Popular Film/TV series, any of those plans could be seriously hindered.

This Bittorrent is not good and we should do well in making sure it is not hosted on any other Illegal download sites.

Captain:

So show me all the movie studios and record producers who have been going out of business as a result of bitorrenting? You can't because there aren't any. The industry is healthy and vibrant despite bitorrenting. How can this be, if, as you say, the industry is being destroyed? The only pirating I have a problem with is the mass piracy you see done on a huge scale in countries such as China. Bitorrenting is akin to letting a friend borrow an old vinyl LP to record on a cassette tape. It hurts no one, in fact there have been studies that show that the record industry's profits grew in cities where such services as napster and bitorrenting were widely used.

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"There is not such a cradle of democracy upon the earth as the Free Public Library, this republic of letters, where neither rank, office, nor wealth receives the slightest consideration."
---Andrew Carnegie

"Doing research on the Web is like using a library assembled piecemeal by pack rats and vandalized nightly."
---Roger Ebert

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