Firefly Sets Yet Another Record!
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UPDATED: Friday, February 23, 2007 02:07
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It's only been a few weeks since Muslix64 bypassed HD DVD's DRM protection and now it appears the first HD DVD movie has made its way onto BitTorrent. The movie of choice is the sci-fi flick Serenity, which weighed in at 19.6GB. The .EVO file is playable on most DVD software packages like PowerDVD, the question is will people be willing to download such a hefty file and how will the Hollywood honchos respond. Either way it looks like it's score 1 for the Pirates, 0 for DRM. – Louis Ramirez
First Pirated HD DVD Movie Hits BitTorrent [Ars Technica]
See more here: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070115-8622.html
Say what you will about pirating, but being a browncoat (see: pirate), I'm quite happy about it. I think it's quite an honor and good advertisement for Serenity that it was the first choice for the first hacker to successfully hack DRM on the new technology.
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I wish you hadn't given this information, and hopefully very few people take advantage of it. Anything that keeps people from buying official Universal DVDs is not good.
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Will this reduce the number of serenity DVDs sold by Amazon.com?
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Whatever man... I was waiting for the haters to come out.
If anything this will bring more people to us and they'll see that maybe there's still a chance to buy the show to see more. That's what happened to me. I did the same thing with Arrested Development. I had already downloaded the first two seasons of that show, but when I found out FUX was going to cancell it, I dropped $60.00 on their website that I didn't need to drop on the DVDs. Sure, not everyone who downloads it is going to buy it, but it's still a higher percentage of people who would have had they'd never seen it at all. It's rather like cold calling in that regards, although this is free advertizing and it's a product that people will want. This technology is here to stay. Hackers will always find workarounds.
Don't be an Alliance-bot.
I'm not getting into another argument about the virtues of Piracy and just how wrong your train of thought is and how Alliance-like you sound when you say such things as I've been over this all before.
I think it's a beautiful thing that the only "real-life" pirates left in this world chose Serenity to be their flagship "F
YOU!" to DRM, HDDVD, BlueRay and the MPAA in this, the next round of entertainment butchering.
Can't stop the signal bro.
Just for you, here's a little bump on the thread.
CMOTD - There has never been any evidence that the ability to download movies or music online has reduced the number of DVDs or CDs of quality goods in the stores. (read: QUALITY goods)
If the CD's only have one good song on them, that's a different story altogether and those Artists are getting screwed by legal downloading vendors such as ITunes just as much as illegal sites. Who is going to drop $16.00 on a CD when they can pay $0.99 for a song. Anything the RIAA or MPAA has said about piracy has nothing to do with them looking out for the interests of the artists. This is just a ploy to guilt people into buying 14 crap songs to get the one good one you were looking for to help their bottom line. They figured out that it wasn't working so they turned on their own artists they supposedly cared so much about and started selling their songs for a buck a piece.
Piracy gives you a choice to support what you really like. Piracy of CDs and DVDs is like giving people a vote as to what they like and support. If they really are a fan of Firefly/Serenity, they will buy a copy of the show/movie. If not, then I don't want them spending money on something they think is crap after they have plunked down the money and watched it. Wouldn't that just be fodder for negative feedback of this great show?
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
I wish you hadn't given this information, and hopefully very few people take advantage of it. Anything that keeps people from buying official Universal DVDs is not good.
Too many of you are thinking that stealing this movie is going to hurt the chances of a sequel. Well, considering Serenity already made the money Universal said was required to consider a sequel, and they haven't talked word one with Joss, I'd say you're holding out for a train that aint coming. But I digress, those of you that feel that this will hurt a sequel are obviously not seeing the big picture. Think about it, the time necessary to crack the DRM protection on a brand new technology is astronomical. Serenity was popular enough that this guy cracked the code on Serenity over every other HD movie out there. And at a whopping 19GB in size, it will take dedication from anyone wanting to download it. And if you don't think execs pay attention to stuff like that you're wrong. What's worth stealing is worth making more of.
This is the beginning of a new era of piracy, and it's only right that Serenity stands at the threshold. Our Captain would be so proud.
And in the words of reavers_ate_my_dvd on gizmodo:
You gotta love that the first pirated HD DVD is the one about space pirates who broadcast a video that the government wants to keep secret.
Can't stop the signal.
Can't stop the signal is right.
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Heard about this earlier today off of /. Quite frankly, all this has done is prove what everyone (including me) said about DRM. Namely, that it just won't work. In fact, there is exactly no way to secure this type of medium.
What really needs to happen, is for companies to stop stealing our fair use rights by using these "techniques" and just cope with the world as it sits today. Basically, they need to figure a way so that they take advantage of this tech, instead of fighting against it.
If they continue to fight against it, they will lose i.e. I can write code way faster than they can make laws.
As for its effects on sales... Well they screamed bloody murder when Beta/VHS/CD's/DVD's/etc came out and became recordable. They said it'd be the end of the recording/movie industries. Well, that didn't happen. So, why should I believe them this time?
IMO, if they want to get good sales, they should do the stunning move of making a quality product. Something which has been severely lacking in the past decade (arguably more).
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Heard about this earlier today off of /. Quite frankly, all this has done is prove what everyone (including me) said about DRM. Namely, that it just won't work. In fact, there is exactly no way to secure this type of medium.
What really needs to happen, is for companies to stop stealing our fair use rights by using these "techniques" and just cope with the world as it sits today. Basically, they need to figure a way so that they take advantage of this tech, instead of fighting against it.
If they continue to fight against it, they will lose i.e. I can write code way faster than they can make laws.
As for its effects on sales... Well they screamed bloody murder when Beta/VHS/CD's/DVD's/etc came out and became recordable. They said it'd be the end of the recording/movie industries. Well, that didn't happen. So, why should I believe them this time?
IMO, if they want to get good sales, they should do the stunning move of making a quality product. Something which has been severely lacking in the past decade (arguably more).
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I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
'Nuff Said!
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Cool to have a record but since its illegal I wouldn't do it.You know if we all bought Serenity/Firefly merchandise for ourselves & for other people's birthday & christmas presents every year then maybe in 2 years Universal might realize that they've made a bundle on Serenity merchandise & might consider making film since if you add the film box office($39 million) plus DVD sales($8-13 million?) & Books & other stuff(a few million maybe) then for Universal Serenity has made $52-55 million maybe.
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I'm with the hackers on this sort of stuff. I see no difference between getting a torrent copy and recording a show from the TV. If you really like the product you'll most likely still go out and purchase the original. Many a time I've recorded a movie, enjoyed it and subsequently gone out and bought the original.
Why is it that sellers don't want you to try before you buy ? Simple, if it turns out to be crud you won't buy it, so its in their interest not to let you determine its crud before you part with the cash. As a result people who don't know about Serenity (and there's a hell of a lot of them) will not part with their cash based on a fancy cover, they'd be more inclined if they could try before buying - here's an opportunity for some to do just that. A lot of people will not part with the cash to buy Serenity or any other show because they are fed up with being burned, letting them try first will get people to watch who otherwise would walk right by it.
Serenity is a quality product, those who like the download will consider buying the original - some won't, but many will. Note that much of the bruhaha over torrents is from the media companies, I don't hear as much bleating from the software world though they are probably hit harder, I guess they've learned to adjust to it.
The suits will notice this & probably track whats happening with the torrents, if the demand is big enough they'll see a market to be exploited and that gets us a little closer to Season 2.
If misbehaving is what it takes to get their attention, then lets be bad guys. :fork
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Well.
Hmm.
The fact that it's the first ever HD DVD (or just movie? Can we just say movie?) to get sneaked onto BitTorrent is real shiny! I do, however, have mixed feelings.
1. "You gotta love that the first pirated HD DVD is the one about space pirates who broadcast a video that the government wants to keep secret.
Can't stop the signal."
This is just awesome. So awesome, in fact, that I'm putting it in my signature.
2. WE'RE POPULAR! LOOK AT US GO! WOOO!
3. Shit, what about DVD sales?
4. The more lists the Browncoats top, the more likely it is that people will find out about Serenity/Firefly, become fans, and buy merchandise.
5. Or they'll just download everything illegally because I'm PARANOID and there'll never be a sequel!
6. Judging by the majority of Browncoats (and even just normal (not rabid) fans, like my lazy AND cheap friend who STILL bought the DVDs), most Firefly lovers will probably buy the stuff.
So, in the end, my need to convert people wins over my fear of DVD sales being hurt. And just for the record? I know that Serenity's in the black (financially), and I know that Universal hasn't approached Joss about a sequel - but gorramit, there's a limit to how much money can be made before people wake up and feel a powerful hunger for a Fruity Oaty Bar!
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