Global Warming proven a hoax!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 02:11
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CAUSAL

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:25 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all...

Actually, if I remember by Astronomy class, space is not "no-thing." If I remember our discussion of the expansion of the universe, the prof said that the universe isn't expanding out into space--space itself is stretching, so it takes longer to get from point to point. This, of course, has nothing to do with global warming, but it bakes my noodle every time I think about it, so I thought I'd share the love.

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BROWNCOATUNIVERSITY

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:39 AM

University of Kingston Falls (well need I say more) When you get a Professor from Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, hell even a half decent acredited university then make a statement. You know how many professors are at universities from great to small it's not difficult to imagine a handful of them saying black is not white. As a biology major in college you talk to any individual who knows anything about science and it is a proven FACT without a shadow of a doubt that global warming is occuring. To say it is not shows how clearly people are not listening to the vast majority of scientists (greater then 98% last time I checked) and are listening to a few radicals from no name universities.

Sorry but as someone who has personally studied the effects and causes and signs of global warming it is very difficult for individuals to say such cognitive lacking statements.

Yes it is happening, yes it is a big deal, and yes we can do things to reduce the threat. As someone previously stated look at Europe they are treating it as a real threat and so should all of we.

Oh and one last thing yes it is caused by man and are ever increasing population producing more and more CO2. This is strongly proven by looking at ice cores from Antartaca and looking at CO2 levels for the last million years or so. Since the invention of cars and recent overuse of coal those levels have went up beyond any levels ever measured let alone imagined. It's time that all of us quit sticking our heads in the sand and saying nothing is wrong because scientists can't prove it because that is clearly not tru.e

Such statements as provided by the original writer of this post are never scientifically reviewed and posted in any scientific journals. Do your research and read and follow articles that are actually peer reviewed and scientifically proven. Statements are cheap but peer reviewed material is hard to have published if not accurate. The overall ignorance of a view is not representitve of the field of science. Study it you'll know what I mean I've studied it and nothing else for 4 1/2 years.

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:59 AM

Browncoatuniversity,

Saying, "I've studied this and lots of people have studied this and it's irrefutable (by any intelligent and/or reputable individual) that mankind is the primary causal factor in global warming..."

Is EXACTLY identical to saying:

"I think mankind is the primary causal factor of global warming, and a lot of other people think it, too. The people who don't think so are all uninformed shitheads."

Which really isn't going to sway anyone.

I stand by my position. Reduce toxins, increase unlimited and nontoxic fuels.

Not for the environment. For meeee!

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Edited for spelling

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:50 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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... but it IS happening.

Yeah, but not by man, and there's nothing we can do about it, if it IS happening.

I refuse to join the lemmings.

I find it interesting that you don't quote the first part of that sentence.

Don't buy into the alarmist mentality fine, neither do I. But, just because one doesn't buy into that, doesn't mean that this stuff isn't going on.

Why do you insist (implicitly) that only the extremes exist in this discussion? Or in other words, why is there no middle ground between "ack, the sky is falling" and "the ostridge syndrome"?

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SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:05 AM

@antimason:

Personal freedoms?!?! Restructuring society?!?! Trillions of dollars for it?!?! Control over our lives?!?! It's nothing like terrorism. How do you even make that connection? What's wrong with you? What the hell are you talking about?

The gov (well the US gov) doesn't do anything about global warming b/c the oil industry "donates" so much money.

Look at California. They put forth a law that stated that the car industry had to R&D cars that used alternative fuel sources. One developed an electric car that was more than well received. But the companies fought it, won, took back the cars and demolished them. Why? Because the cars industry is quite intimate with the oil industry; they are the same.

In all seriousness, you really have to let go of this paranoia that the gov is out to get you. I mean, I'm a fairly paranoid person (I'm into secure programming), but seriously, you're scary to me. THAT should say something to you i.e. The practically (as in practical not almost) paranoid is finding you paranoid at a scary level. Just think about that.

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SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Saying, "I've studied this and lots of people have studied this and it's irrefutable (by any intelligent and/or reputable individual) that mankind is the primary causal factor in global warming..."

Is EXACTLY identical to saying:

"I think mankind is the primary causal factor of global warming, and a lot of other people think it, too. The people who don't think so are all uninformed shitheads."

No it isn't. What it IS saying is that uninformed people should listen to people that have a clue instead of forming opinions based on nothing. Intelligent/reputable people will do this, others... not so much.

It's not really a surprise though. People in the US are much more inclined to listen to Bill O'Reilly pounding his fist, cutting off his "guests" mics, etc than listening to a scientist explain why things are the way they are with stats, error bars, etc.

Winning the popular opinion today has everything to do with entertainment value and pretty much nothing to do with mountains of hard evidence that things are happening.

The problem with this is that while the oil companies are winning, the world's population (and more than just arguably the world itself) is losing. And people don't notice because they are basically told not to. Kinda a double-think of sorts.

Please also note that even in "An Inconvenient Truth" the phrase "as little as 10 years" appears.

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SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:31 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

That puts "Global Warming Because of Us" advocates into the position of presenting evidence, while "Global Warming Not Because of Us" advocates analyze the data and find flaws or alternative conclusions.

There's a group in charge of compiling the current research/evidence/etc that show that global warming is real. They are call the International Panel on Climate Change:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Please refer to there documents and let us know exactly what the problems with there work is. After all you say:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

But the furor over Global Warming is idiotic, in my opinion.

So, let us know why it is idiotic. Sure it's been hyped up in North American (especially the US), but that doesn't mean it's bad science nor does it mean it isn't a serious issue nor does it mean that it shouldn't be considered.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Give me more money in my wallet, give me more time on this Earth. Those are real issues. Humans adapt easily to temperature. They don't adapt as well to being broke or dead.

How self centered and short sighted of you.

Seems to me what the scientists are predicting IS death by more severe natural disasters. And since what they have predicted IS coming to pass...

Let us know how those life threatening hurricanes suit you then. Or perhaps you could ask someone in New Orleans. Or perhaps the people affected by droughts in Africa.

Because it seems to me that we aren't dealing too well with these changes in temperature. Mother natural isn't exactly letting us.

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MGTS

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:07 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This just in: Scientists confirm Global Warming in no way contributed to by man!
Dr. Wytell Crump from the University of Kingston Falls states: "This is all nonsense, this global Warming rubbish. Yes, there IS a measureable difference in the mean Earth temperature, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called greenhouse gasses. Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all, but the numbers do not lie! This is the cause of our polar cap shrinkage."

http/www.notarealsite.com

Guess I was wrong...Chrisisall

Ya ok where did u get this info from??

MGTS

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:05 AM

I still don't know if milk is good for me or bad for me. Scientists are nothing but a bunch of dumb humans that went to their elite schools. They make mistakes all day and go home at night and fist their trophy wives.

I don't buy any of this global warming bullshit, although that is not to say that I don't belive that it's possible.

The only certainty that I have is that what Antimason is saying is more or less true, and in a world where all this scary shit is going on, how can anybody even call someone paranoid? Just because somebody doesn't believe all the scary shit the media and scientists and government tell us to believe everyday like you chose to believe doesn't make them paranoid. They just choose to believe in a different, albeit argueably much scarier set of bullshit.

I'm all about finding solutions to problems, but if you have faith in any of our governments at this point, I believe that you are a very foolish person.

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AURAPTOR

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 11:04 AM

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My petty insults huh. The only person whose made any personal insults so far would be you, before trying to take the moral high ground it is customary to ensure ...blah, blah blah.

As is most often the case, you initiated the insults here. I was simply responding to someone else's post, and you felt the need to imply I was 'mad' to not buy into the global warming lie. Contrary to your 'you started it' rant, the facts say otherwise.

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Why would I refute you with evidence when you haven't brought any? Is this double standards or hypocrisy, I'm not sure?

You're not sure because it's above you to even contemplate. Other than you see it as just another reason to be a jack-ass and insert yourself by insulting someone in this thread who hadn't said 1 derogatory word toward you in the least.

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I have no desire to change your mind, you'd have to have one first but joking aside there is only one person who could change 'your' opinion, and he lives in a house that is somewhat white.

If you're trying to imply that my stance on global warming relies solely on what any elected official has to say, you'd be greatly mistaken. Or was that also a joke? It's so hard to figure out British humor.

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