Global Warming proven a hoax!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 02:11
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@antimason:
You're completely off your nut.
It is happening, and your delusion doesn't make that not a fact. One delusional "scientist" out of pretty much the whole community doesn't change that fact. Perhaps it's not as dangerous, perhaps it's more dangerous, but it IS happening.
Also, point of fact, it is only ridiculously politicized in the North America (mainly the US though). Go and look what's happening in Europe. They are taking this seriously, and have instituted laws to get the job done. Sure the companies complained, but they adjusted and all is well and good over there.
As for what one person can do, sure it's limited. BUT, if everyone did something, then the effect would be profound. Keeping this "but what can I do" BS keeps populations apathetic and unwilling to promote positive change. This is true with regards to the global warming issue and can be applied to most other areas as well e.g. voting.
Just imagine if the people made this an election topic. As in, not just asking the question and allow the side step from the politicians, but FORCE the issue. Just imagine if people made purchasing decisions based at least in part on if the products effect the environment negatively.
Companies make decisions based on the bottom line, in the short term. If they realized that continuing on there current path hurt there profits, they'll change there ways. Similarly, if the politicians realized that not taking a hard stance on global warming put there chances of winning elections in jeopardy, they'd change there minds pretty quick. What if politicians realized that not keeping these promises resulted in not getting re-elected?
Please note that this can mostly be achieved by democratic means.
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Quote:Effecting the environment negatively isn't so bad as long as it doesn't affect me personally.
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Just imagine if people made purchasing decisions based at least in part on if the products effect the environment negatively.
More on me later Chrisisall
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... but it IS happening.
Yeah, but not by man, and there's nothing we can do about it, if it IS happening.
I refuse to join the lemmings.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
You're completely off your nut.
Speaking of which:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, but not by man, and there's nothing we can do about it, if it IS happening.
I refuse to join the lemmings.
Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"
Your petty insults, false pride and inferiority complex aside, I refuse to join the lemmings. Sorry, but your indignation of me not 'falling in line' isn't compelling enough evidence for me to buy into the hysteria.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:My petty insults huh. The only person whose made any personal insults so far would be you, before trying to take the moral high ground it is customary to ensure you are not deeper in the shit than everyone else.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your petty insults, false pride and inferiority complex aside, I refuse to join the lemmings.
Quote:Why would I refute you with evidence when you haven't brought any? Is this double standards or hypocrisy, I'm not sure?
Sorry, but your indignation of me not 'falling in line' isn't compelling enough evidence for me to buy into the hysteria.
I have no desire to change your mind, you'd have to have one first
but joking aside there is only one person who could change 'your' opinion, and he lives in a house that is somewhat white.More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Nah, nah, you've got it all wrong!
It's those pesky aliens using a cosmic ray projector to fry us one degree at a time so they can have our planet !
Over to our on-site correspondent, Pirate News, for an update on the situation... PN ?
PN are you there ?
PN !!!
OH NO, THEY'VE EATEN THE CORRESPONDENT, THEY'RE GONNA KILL US ALL, RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIVEEESS!
(Oh this is tooo much fun..)
-Frem
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Quote:Those aren't Aliens you CLOD.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Nah, nah, you've got it all wrong!
It's those pesky aliens using a cosmic ray projector to fry us one degree at a time so they can have our planet !
Over to our on-site correspondent, Pirate News, for an update on the situation... PN ?
PN are you there ?
PN !!!
OH NO, THEY'VE EATEN THE CORRESPONDENT, THEY'RE GONNA KILL US ALL, RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIVEEESS!
(Oh this is tooo much fun..)
It's pockets of swap gas reflecting the light of Venus through Uranus.
What's that eating my leg? Why it's a, ten foot gerbil.
Bush said so.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
You're completely off your nut.
It is happening, and your delusion doesn't make that not a fact. One delusional "scientist" out of pretty much the whole community doesn't change that fact.
what should we do about it though? im in favor of more environementally sound technologies.. but i will outright resist any attempts to restructure society, because the institutions that exist currently will only use this to establish more methods to restrict personal freedoms. if global warming is a legitimate phenomonan, its still a trade off.. but i would rather take my chances with the weather, then have some all powerful, central authority regulate my behavior, and try something tyrannous like taxing me by every mile i drive and what not
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Perhaps it's not as dangerous, perhaps it's more dangerous, but it IS happening.
its just like terrorism.. you can shit your pants over it and fight preemptive wars acrossed the globe, meanwhile robbing the rights of the populace to be infinately aware of all risks to the 'state'(and still be unable to stop it).. or you can accept the reality, that your more likely to get struck by lighting than die from a terrorist attack, and go on about your life; in the end, in this age, with our current mindset and political leadership.. the authoritarian body that would crop up to solve 'global warming' would only use it as capital to further the ADMITTED NWO agenda
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Also, point of fact, it is only ridiculously politicized in the North America (mainly the US though). Go and look what's happening in Europe. They are taking this seriously, and have instituted laws to get the job done. Sure the companies complained, but they adjusted and all is well and good over there.
thats fine, i am not by any means making an appeal to give corporations a free pass on emissions regulations or anything.. but i am not about to give trillions of dollars over to a government to legislate social changes, i think thats scary as hell
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As for what one person can do, sure it's limited. BUT, if everyone did something, then the effect would be profound. Keeping this "but what can I do" BS keeps populations apathetic and unwilling to promote positive change. This is true with regards to the global warming issue and can be applied to most other areas as well e.g. voting.
look i acknowledge your point, its certainly not alien to me, i want positive changes to be made also, and i do what i can personally.. which is why it needs to be genuine changes from within the individual, not politically motivated and harnessed for what is a secret alterior motive. if the governments wanted energy independance, or anything that would benefit the individual, they would do so; but they dont, government now exists for the sake of itself and its puppetmasters, and any effort to reverse an alleged planetary warming would only result in further tyranny and control over our lives
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"Why would I refute you with evidence when you haven't brought any?"
Well, as far as I know, you can't prove that something doesn't exist. You can only prove that something does exist. That puts "Global Warming Because of Us" advocates into the position of presenting evidence, while "Global Warming Not Because of Us" advocates analyze the data and find flaws or alternative conclusions.
But the furor over Global Warming is idiotic, in my opinion. Someone up there *points to top of thread* wanted to make Global Warming an election issue, and I have to strongly disagree.
GLOBAL WARMING IS UNIMPORTANT
I don't give one fig about Global Warming. The Earth gets hot sometimes and it gets cold sometimes, and whether we push it in one direction or the other, it's still going to get hot sometimes and cold sometimes. Weather Control is not something that I think humans are ready for.
But let me tell you what we ARE ready for.
We are ready for unlimited fuel. Like say Hydrogen.
We are ready for non-toxic fuel. Like say Hydrogen.
We are ready to use fewer toxic chemicals in everything we do. Not because of Global Warming, but rather because of things like bloody Cancer.
We are ready to manufacture bullets out of lead-alternatives so that recreational shooters don't poison themselves slowly.
We are ready to make a lot of changes to the way we live that has nothing to do with the spectre of Global Warming.
We need to change our tune, not because of the boogeyman of Global Warming, but rather because of the verified evils of poison, carcinogens, and expensive and limited fuel supplies.
*Points to his wallet, then to the calendar.*
Give me more money in my wallet, give me more time on this Earth. Those are real issues. Humans adapt easily to temperature. They don't adapt as well to being broke or dead.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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