Weird situation with a trekky

POSTED BY: monksdad
UPDATED: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:07
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TEACHDAIRE

Monday, January 15, 2007 9:26 PM

I don't think this is a totally isolated incident. I've had problems, usually minor harrasment like muttering or people cutting in line from both Trekkies and Star Warsies. The ones I've had least trouble with seem to be the B5 fans, which as far as I can tell seems to be the closest to FF as far as real life goes (I'm talking about people and places, not the storyline here).
Here's my reasoning.
B5 has nice gritty backgrounds, yes the corridors in the ambassadorial areas are nice and clen, but they have to be, even such relatively upscale parts of the station such as the Zocalo looks more like a street market than a regular space station. They have their equivalent to slum areas too, with their "down below" area, easliy equaling places like Eavesdown docks. Even the docking bays are dark and dirty looking. This is as close to reality as a sci-fi series ever got before FF.
All the characters seem to be real people too, unlike ST, where all the characters are perfect people who look like they belong on a recruiting poster for the "shiny happy people" cult.

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CMOTD

Monday, January 15, 2007 11:14 PM

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All the characters seem to be real people too, unlike ST, where all the characters are perfect people who look like they belong on a recruiting poster for the "shiny happy people" cult.

Most of the characters on B5 are entirely one dimentional. Joss chreated Firefly to be character driven. As such, the Big Damn Heroes are multifacited individuals. B5 is driven by its story arc and by FX, therefore JMS could present us with characters who would disapear if you turned them sideways, and no one would notice.

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B1GDAMNH3R0

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:43 AM

wow, thats sad. i meen come on just because you dont like Trek.

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OUT2THEBLACK

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:44 AM

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Originally posted by Superfluous:

...The Enterprise would never have used Gorilla tactics (not in the rulebook).

Were there Monkeys ? Some terrifyin' space monkeys maybe got loose ?

Maybe some Planet of the Apes fans will come over to our side if we keep usin' the
' Gorilla ' tactics !

Keep the Faith . Share the Love . Feel the Joy !

CMOTD

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:53 AM

I like some aspects of Trek. Picard is incredibly cool, as are Worf and Data. Star Trek also had many great episodes such as "Darmok" and both parts of Chain of Command". I just think that there are flaws in the way the Trek universe is structured. Putting aside for a moment my that there are very few aliens in high-ranking positions in Starfleet (Roddenberry was right, the the main characters of any show created for the trek franchise need to be human in order for the audience to identify with them) Starfleet is almost always throwing its weight around. It has the prime directive but never seems to obey it(At least Picard and Kirk had some trouble doing so). In other science-fiction shows shows (Battle Star Galactica, Bab 5 Firefly) you get the impression that the universe is marvelously diverse. A place where things maybe grim at times, but where there's always room to party. I think I saw the crew of the Enterprise D party three times in TNG. Gawd, but Iife on Starfleet vessels must suck.

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wow, thats sad. i meen come on just because you dont like Trek.

Takes more than combat gear to make a man
Takes more than a license for a gun
Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can
A gentleman will walk but never run

-Sting, An Englishman in New York

SUPERFLUOUS

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:19 AM

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The real question is: IS this an isolated incident?

Yes, yes it is. This is ridiculous. There is no gang war brewing between Browncoats and Trekkers. Besides, if Star Trek fans are so well organized, why should great masses of Trek fans feel so threatened by a relatively small group like the Browncoats?

Yes that was ridiculous wasn’t it? I just got taken aback by the very idea that there could be prejudices against people within the Sci-Fi community, depending on what show you enjoy. I’ve personally have never been to a convention, so I’m in the dark to that point too. But I'm a fan of both Star Trek and Firefly.

I’m kind of hoping that woman with the dog was an isolated incident. But such is life; people will continue to be people. No matter which community you’re in.

I personally choose not to hate people. The way I see it, hating someone is kinda like burning down your own house to kill a rat. It’s really just a waste of my short and precious life (why should anyone (without reason) be succumbed to dwell on belittling someone else?)
And if I’m ever going to hate anybody; I’m going to hate him or her not for their color or their culture or their religion or background or a million other things that are irrelevant (including naming your pet River). I’m going to hate that person for who they are. For the asshole they truly are. By the actions that they have committed, today.

But the whole ‘Gang Warfare’ thing is a good laugh though. It kind of reminds me of the Unification War. One show to rule them all... kidding.

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BULLETINTHEBRAINPANSQUISH

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:41 AM

Look, maybe she was just pissed that she hadn't though of calling her pet River first, and was sorely troubled by her own lack of creativity and your strength of conviction in the Browncoat cause.

Or maybe she was off her meds. That can really mess with a body. Just ask River. The character, not the dog.

But if you see her again, you can always just give her the good ol' you, you stupid !

That might help work out some tension. Or create some. Either way, hilarity will ensue.

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DARKFLY

Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:55 AM

I think it was a one enough since she was completely obssessed with Star Trek,I'm obssessed but I wouldn't care that much if somebody hated Firefly & only liked Andromeda or something.

By GOD that's one of the best story's I've heard in ages they should make it into a movie.

I'm 17 today,shiny

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:20 PM

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Originally posted by Superfluous:

...The Enterprise would never have used Gorilla tactics (not in the rulebook).

Were there Monkeys ? Some terrifyin' space monkeys maybe got loose ?

I was gonna make a joke about Ensign Janos (the mugato on the Excaliber), but decided it would be too obscure.

Silly me.

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OUT2THEBLACK

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
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Originally posted by Superfluous:

...The Enterprise would never have used Gorilla tactics (not in the rulebook).

Were there Monkeys ? Some terrifyin' space monkeys maybe got loose ?
I was gonna make a joke about Ensign Janos (the mugato on the Excaliber), but decided it would be too obscure.

Silly me.

Good one , actually ! I wanted to make the mugato joke myself , but couldn't remember what the durn critter was called !

But I was thinkin' of the Galileo 7 episode from Trek Classic , not Ensign Janos...Oops , ancient Trek-geek emerging .

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