the cold hard scientific facts: 9/11 was an inside job
POSTED BY: antimason
UPDATED: Sunday, January 14, 2007 09:17
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
am, you should invite piratenews over for some gay sex and then order a pizza.
This is an insult to both the gay sex and pizza loving communities. As a pizza lover, I demand an apology.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Geezer:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
am, you should invite piratenews over for some gay sex and then order a pizza.
This is an insult to both the gay sex and pizza loving communities. As a pizza lover, I demand an apology.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
Everyone loves pizza, so I felt it the safe route. Besides, had I said 'order Chinese food' instead, no telling what non stop conspiracy nonsense that would have stared.
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Quote:Well, I think it is clear to most people that this 9/ll conspiracy stuff is a paranoid delusion, but the motivation of this and perhaps all such wacky conspiracy theories has always been somewhat puzzling to me. It’s not clear to me that Antimason has either a Left or a Right wing political opinion, but rather that he is suffering from an acute disassociative coping hysteria, in which he substitutes a delusion for reality. I don’t think it is as simple as Antimason being a loon, recent posts notwithstanding. In other instances, he has never appeared to me to be generally delusional, like piratenews. It’s a very specific delusion. Fletch2 had a post on the motivation of conspiracy theories earlier that I thought was astute. Antimason said this earlier, and I think it speaks to his state of mind:
Originally posted by Fletch2:
Are we sure he isn't Piratenews?
So opinion time, is AntiMason a rightwing nutjob "militia" type or some form of gibbering loony lefty? Discuss...
“[[]M[]]y fantasy keeps me vigilante(sic) against lies that you are all too willing to endulge(sic).”
In other words, his fantasy is a mechanism specifically designed to hide him from a reality he is psychologically unable to accept.
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Quote:I believe the term you are looking for is Paranoid Schizophrenia.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Well, I think it is clear to most people that this 9/ll conspiracy stuff is a paranoid delusion, but the motivation of this and perhaps all such wacky conspiracy theories has always been somewhat puzzling to me. It’s not clear to me that Antimason has either a Left or a Right wing political opinion, but rather that he is suffering from an acute disassociative coping hysteria, in which he substitutes a delusion for reality. I don’t think it is as simple as Antimason being a loon, recent posts notwithstanding. In other instances, he has never appeared to me to be generally delusional, like piratenews. It’s a very specific delusion. Fletch2 had a post on the motivation of conspiracy theories earlier that I thought was astute. Antimason said this earlier, and I think it speaks to his state of mind:
“[[]M[]]y fantasy keeps me vigilante(sic) against lies that you are all too willing to endulge(sic).”
In other words, his fantasy is a mechanism specifically designed to hide him from a reality he is psychologically unable to accept.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Finn wrote-
In other words, his fantasy is a mechanism specifically designed to hide him from a reality he is psychologically unable to accept.
how does my "delusion" hide me from reality?? you think there is no government corruption? that the government HAS NEVER BEFORE IN HISTORY COMMITTED ACTS OF TERROR AGAINST AMERICANS?? it sounds like you are unable to accept reality- im not shitting my pants over 'evil Muslims' half way acrossed the world
the belief all of you here hold is that the government ALWAYS TELLS YOU THE TRUTH; so the largest conspiracies in US history, like Abe Lincolns assasination, the establishment of the Federal Reserve(and IRS), the creation of the CIA and UN... Kennedys assassination.. i suppose you guys know the truth about these issues.. and their were NOOO alterior motives??
im the ignorant loon.. when you guys havent even looked into the history of the Federal Reserve, or the CFR, or the creation of the CIA.. all these un-american instituions that say in their own documents that they want a one world government. over time, i will only be further vindicated, and you guys will be left scratching your heads wondering 'what in the hell is going on?" without taking somewhat of a conspiratorial view of history, you will never be equipped to interpret reality
you all believe that the only truth is that which is covered by mainstream news media.. so all alternative views of history are crazy and paranoid; even when the facts fit better than the "random occurance of events" view that is so easy for you all to buy into
so when we go to war with IRan, we recieve another terror attack and lose more liberties, America gets pushed into an American union, the dollar crashes and they introduce the AMero.. or they give you an ID card with an RFID CHIP.. and political leaders start demanding a global UN government body= i guess it will all have been a coincidence, just a random occurance with no political forethought or pursuasion
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Originally posted by antimason:
this here is basically the video that removes all speculation and debate ( although certainly not the first and only)
and i challenge everybody to watch this video and still affirm (if not completely dissassociate)your allegience with the "establishment"
its no longer up for debate.. the governments account, as summarized by the 9/11 commission report, is SCIENTIFICALLY AND PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE! the only conclusion to be drawn from the evidence is that it was not arab "terrorists" with 'alqaeda'
if you want to debate me on this issue... specifically the events of that day, bring it on! Hero, Auraptor, Geezer...and those of you on the fence:
i want it to be clear by the end of this thread that only elements within the US government could have orchestrated 9/11. the relevence of this subject is so great that it alters all that is generally accepted among corporate mainstream media and popular history. unless you include the coverup of 9/11 as a premise to your worldview, along with its subsequent ramifications.. you will forever be stuck within the controlled paradigm of corporate media and its banking slavemasters
Oh sweet Jesus tell me you are joking! This is ridiculous. If you are so sure that the government would deliberately kill all those people - then MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY. Piss or get off the pot dude. And take your meds.
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Originally posted by SevenPercent:
The steel didn't need to melt, it just needed to weaken and bend. Hot metal does that. All that weight on a bent frame, and you can't believe it fell? No, it never happened before, because a plane hadn't hit a Goddamn building before!
I'm not trying to discount anything you have to say, sevenpercent, since you do sound refreshingly rational.
Actually, a large plane did crash into a New York City skyscraper before:
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=179
July 29, 1945
The plane was smaller and slower and the building more solidly built. Did lots of damage, though.
I love how the conspiracy guys are just trying to show all of us sheep 'the truth'. That's very altruistic of them. No matter what facts there are to the contrary.
I have no doubt people in the gov't have exploited the 9/11 tragedy for their own political gain, but to have caused it? That's quite a stretch.
Sahara
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Interesting link, Sahara. I did not know that. And thanks for the rational comment - then again, I'm arguing with Antimason, a person only slightly more sane than Piratenews.
What I found interesting from the link, a fact that strengthens the "non-loony" case, was this:
had already started work when their offices were suddenly engulfed an an explosion of flaming, high-octane fuel. The burning gasoline traveled through hallways, stairwells, and elevator shafts, reaching as far as four floors below the point of impact
And this: A publicist working in the offices was propelled out of a window from the explosion
All that burning jet fuel, pouring down the inside of the building. How much more jet fuel did a fully tanked modern airliner carry? Staggering thought. And the guy getting blown out; people are surprised that things like licenses and papers survived. Why wouldn't they? The force of the blast throws anything light away from it (including people).
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why were the planes only at 20% capacity that day.. when they ordinarily would have been at 75%? same for the towers, not to mention the exact impact zones.... and even the Pentagon, being coincidentally under construction where it was hit. wake up.. there was a lot more that happened on 9/11 than just some hijackings.. like a whole mess of government and corporate forknowledge.
but i guess maybe WW3 and a global government sounds appealing to you all
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AM
Your scenario is, unfortunately, just another false dilemma. Either you trust the government completely OR you accept the entire conspiracy theory ! Most people are very much in between those choices.
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