the cold hard scientific facts: 9/11 was an inside job
POSTED BY: antimason
UPDATED: Sunday, January 14, 2007 09:17
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jongsstraw- so debate me on the facts?
youre the traitor.. you support the same terrorists who caused the murders of 9/11.. and you fearmonger and use those lies as an excuse to destroy american liberties and plunge us into global conlfict. keep goosestepping along with your neo Nazi idol Bush and his plan for a global government... youll soon be revealed for the traitors to AMerica that YOU are
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If the 9/11 commission report is wrong on the facts (how long it took the buildings to come down etc.) that would not surprise me, it is after all a government report and they are always full of inaccuracies. But to take the fact the the report has inaccuracies and say it must be an inside top run conspiracy is bull shit. The videos of the planes going into the buildings, videos of the buildings collapse, coupled with testimony from the people that were in the building is much greater evidence than what this clown says. Hey, just watch the videos... there are plenty out there. Or are the videos fake? The thousands of eye witnesses hypnotized? They are all incorrect as to what they saw and lived through because someone sees perceived natural law violations in a GOVERNMENT report? Duh!
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Originally posted by Gladiator32:
I never believed 9/11 to be any kind of inside job. I found this website rather interesting:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
It's heavy going, takes friggin ages to read, but pretty much destroys any conspiracy theorist's arguments...
oh... you mean the article written by Benjamin Chertoff, Homeland security secretary Michael Chertoffs brother????
talk about a conflict of interests... get real!! why dont you just ask the CIA what they want you to believe; but while youre at it, research MKULTRA and other CIA black ops projects created to condition and propogate the masses through deliberate disinformation
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Don't really have the hour to invest in watching the video right now, and the time to formulate an opinion and response. Maybe tomorrow.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by kaneman:
If the 9/11 commission report is wrong on the facts (how long it took the buildings to come down etc.) that would not surprise me, it is after all a government report and they are always full of inaccuracies.
like the warren commission for example... but inaccuracies is an understatement. more like "ommissions and distortions"
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But to take the fact the the report has inaccuracies and say it must be an inside top run conspiracy is bull shit.
no.. its not just the report- its the evidence that the report conveniently withheld.. or basically every peice of data those of us in the 9/11 truth movement seize onto, like the molten steel at the base of the towers weeks after the attacks(which is impossible from fire)- that kind of information contradicts the official claims, so you never heard about it! thats how deep this coverup goes
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The videos of the planes going into the buildings, videos of the buildings collapse, coupled with testimony from the people that were in the building is much greater evidence than what this clown says.
like the firemen who heard explosions in the towers, and their testimonies which were put under gag order from the DOD...or like the eye witnesses who saw something other then a commercial airliner hit the pentagon? those are accounts that you didnt hear for a reason!
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Hey, just watch the videos... there are plenty out there. Or are the videos fake? The thousands of eye witnesses hypnotized? They are all incorrect as to what they saw and lived through because someone sees perceived natural law violations in a GOVERNMENT report? Duh!
the government has not released ANY FILM OF THE PENTAGON CRASH; they even went as far as confiscating local servelience cameras... now why?? because witnesses never saw the claimed 757.... period
its a matter of details.. it really all comes down to the evidence, and whether you will actually measure it objectively or not
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
So, none of you three even bothered to watch the video, right?
It's poorly reasoned and nothing I've not heard before.
"The WTC was designed to withstand plane strikes". Yeah from smaller aircraft taking off/landing, not larger aircraft travelling at maximum speed. I could go on and on, but there's nothing new here that hasn't been debunked a hundred times.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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All you conspiracy theorists are looking for is attention.
I'll be honest, I have no opinion on how it happened, as I'm still in high school, but I do know it was a tragedy, and I do know that if Americans do the right thing it won't happen again.
That said, Americans hardly ever do the right thing, and this tragedy will likely repeat itself. I think anyone is foolish for arguing about it at all.
Bush's power will be gone shortly, Republicans have lost their power in congress, and soon we'll all be complaining about how dumb the democrats are (just like right now we're complaining about how dumb the republicans are).
So why do you conspiracy theorists continue the argument? To become famous, to have your voices heard, and the foolish American public will eat up anything that is fed to them.
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Originally posted by Citizen-
I've seen no evidence that compels me to believe that the buildings collapsed from anything but by being hit by two fucking great big flying bombs.
I've seen plenty of evidence that requires the people masterminding and carrying off the various conspiracies to be super human.
youre right... 19 hijackers, whos names werent on the flight manifests.. turned off all four flight data recorders and tracking systems, seized control with box cutters, and put COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS through maneuvers that trained airforce veterans would struggle with.. and hit 75% of their targets, *causing the first 3 highrises to fall in history due to fire- and an entire 757 to dissapear within the pentagon (without leaving a mark)
now that sounds super human! i guess if 19 cave dwelling disinfranchised muslims can do it, anythings possible right???????????????????
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Originally posted by BuffaloPhil:
All you conspiracy theorists are looking for is attention.
exactly ... we're trying to wake people up to the truth! otherwise you will go on living your life believing that government is GOOD*- it is not, its purpose is control, and goverments will create terror if it leads to that end. you would never know this otherwise, because corporate media was long ago coopted by these same forces who have hijacked government.. so understand it is the common worldview and paradigm that we are resisting
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I'll be honest, I have no opinion on how it happened, as I'm still in high school, but I do know it was a tragedy, and I do know that if Americans do the right thing it won't happen again.
the "right thing" is exposing the true purpetrators behind 9/11.. otherwise it certainly will happen again. the "war on terror" will NEVER EVER EVER PREVENT TERRORISM... it is a front to implement every servelience method under the son, so that one day no one can do anything without being monitored. it wont be evil "islamofascists" behind this afront to freedom, it will be OUR OWN GOVERNMENT- if only we had the wisdom to recognize it as its happening in the present
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That said, Americans hardly ever do the right thing, and this tragedy will likely repeat itself. I think anyone is foolish for arguing about it at all.
i am not arguing, i am debating... a debate is an dialogue to uncover truth. those who wish to stifle debate, those in the "if your not with us your with the terrorists" crowd are the most anti- american people i can think of.. dont allow yourself to be conditioned like these neonazis
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Bush's power will be gone shortly, Republicans have lost their power in congress, and soon we'll all be complaining about how dumb the democrats are (just like right now we're complaining about how dumb the republicans are).
exactly.. because both arms are controlled by the same body of Bankers and elitist money runners. the whole system is flawed, and it must be exposed to the lights of public scrutiny before the status quo can be broken
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So why do you conspiracy theorists continue the argument? To become famous, to have your voices heard, and the foolish American public will eat up anything that is fed to them.
no, because protecting the liberties of innocent people is the right thing to do, and because avioding war and conflict is the right thing to do. these days its rare, but more vital than ever to put your name and life on the line for truth
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
All these freakin' conspiracy assholes are farging insane..they're also fargin' traitors to America.
To even suggest such an absurd concept is quite an admission of their utter lack of reality, outright hatred of America, and an open testimonial to their pea-brained intellect...how fucking sad & pathetic!
I don't think they're traitors. Our forefathers said that a public that believes whatever its government tells them diserve to be slaves. It is every American's patriotic duty to question things like this and not just believe what the media says.
I haven't made up my mind about 9/11. I want to give our Government the benefit of the doubt here, but there is compelling evidence against what we have been led to believe.
Perhaps, there were explosives rigged in the building at the time it was erected, for the very purpose of destroying the building in the fashion they went down. For the simple reason that towers that big would kill countless more people if they fell like a tree a lumberjack just cut down.
I think it's possible that the red button to self destruct the towers was pushed, even with people still trapped inside. That would be a tough call to make, but in that instance, whoever had to make that call had to balance the lives of the people still trapped in the building that may fall over at any minute and the lives of any of the people in the buildings nearby that may have toppled like dominoes.
Not to mention the money aspect of such a tragedy. New York would shut down for years if 20 or 30 buildings were destroyed.
If this were the case, do you think anybody would honestly tell the American people that the building had been destroyed in this fashion for this reason? They would have to hang somebody by their balls to appease the wrath of a people who do things like take great joy in watching Saddam hang on YouTube.
Don't go calling people questioning the "facts" traitors. Maybe you need to keep a more open mind and realize that in a world that's all about the bottom line above the people, maybe the big companies and big Government aren't always looking out for you. And perhaps, our Government isn't the same Government your grandparents grew up with and loved.
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