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Would you still fly?

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Friday, January 5, 2007 9:44 AM

Damn, that's a hard question, cause one of the reasons why I'm a huge fan of the show is because I love the cast... but I love the verse... hypothetical situations suck.

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Friday, January 5, 2007 2:00 PM

Yeah, the 'verse with out Joss or the cast would not be the same.

But I think the main issue for me would be, if Joss was in controle or not. He is the well from which all the great ideas have sprung & to lose that would be a travesty.

I would absolutly watch a series directed/written etc all by Joss, set in the firefly 'verse, without the orginal cast. It wouldn't be the same but I have faith in Joss's ability to make it interesting. After all Angel did pretty well as a spin off to the Buffy 'verse.


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Saturday, January 6, 2007 2:58 PM

Were the show to be recast, but everything else stay the same, well... it would be different. It wouldn't be Firefly any more, as the characters made Firefly, and we've all spent countless hours with those characters and made them people in our mind. I would watch, if only to see what Joss would do. I think I might even be able to enjoy it if I could convince myself that this was not Firefly, it was just a Firefly-like show in the 'Verse with characters that seemed very similar to our BDH. In many respects.

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:06 PM

I guess I just don't think Joss would ever try & 'replace' a cast member/entire cast, creat a new member or create a new setting, perhaps.

Don't get me wrong-I'd love to see joss & the orginal cast but I also know, having been on this earth for 45 years, that is hard to go back.

Yeah, 'If I could convince myself that this was not firefly' is the hard one. I just believe Joss could creat a show which would allow for that.


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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
It's fascinating to see such a strong response against any recasting. Of course, I'd be against it too but the fact remains that any one of hundreds of actors could have played those parts and they'd have been pretty much the same.

The characters come from Joss. The writing comes from Joss (and the episode's author). The actors say the lines and try not to bump into the scenary. Okay, I'm oversimplifying but Firefly without Joss = no show. Firefly without any of the original actors = a slightly different Firefly.

Joss tells them what to do. It's all there on the page for them. Yes, they're a gifted group of actors and damn lovely people to boot. But they're utterly replacable. Heck, one of them already has been.


Wait a minute, who's been replaced? Okay, Wash and Book were killed off in the BDM, but nobody replaced them that I know of! Bester doesn't count!

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Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:42 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I realized I didn't answer the question!

For me, I would only watch if it was the same cast and Joss. It isn't Firefly otherwise. Different people act differently. If you put someone else in Mal's character, it wouldn't be the Mal we all know and love. If it had been begun with other people, it would very likely be a different Firefly than what we have. I'm not a huge Joss fan...I didn't like Buffy or Angel very much, possibly because both those shows seemed very teen-oriented to me, and I left my teens behind long ago. Firefly was a more adult show. I loved the cast they had.

I know I'm rambling, but case in point: Alan in Knight's Tale, and Alan in Firefly. Other than a change in accent and time frame, it could have been the same character as far as personality went. I think that the actors bring parts of their own personalities to the characters, so if you change the actor, you change the character, and therefore change the whole dynamic of the show.

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Monday, January 8, 2007 5:53 AM

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For me, I would only watch if it was the same cast and Joss. It isn't Firefly otherwise. Different people act differently.


Your right it wouldn't be the firefly we all know & love it'd be something different set in the firefly 'Verse. I happen to think (read as 'hope') that whatever Joss creates in the 'Verse will be worth watchin & ment for grown-ups.

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If you put someone else in Mal's character, it wouldn't be the Mal we all know and love....


Agreed, I would be very upset if Mal was recast. I wouldn't however be adverse to a different captain, perhaps Zoe for example and perhaps the crew would hire a new gun hand. Who know's, the point is due to circumstances things may change but if Joss is in controle the flavor may still be there.


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Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:27 AM

***** Footsteps approach, followed by a tall lean man in a brown coat *****

Firefly as a series is nothing without the actors that made the characters what they are, if it came down to re-casting or no show, I choose no show. I believe my sentiment is followed by most all Browncoats'. There will only be one Mal Reynolds, the one created and burned into our heads by Nathan Fillion.
Would Star Trek be Star Trek without Shatner? Or Nemoy? No.
Firefly and Serenity (motion picture series) will always need it's original cast to be what it is, what it was, and what it is destined be.


***** Gunslinger turns and departs *****


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Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:21 AM

I couldn't. It would turn too soap opera for me. There would be no depth to the characters without the original cast.

Could anyone really see Mal without the stone cold expression that Nathan gives to Mal, or the seductive quality of Morena's dark eyes, Summer's robotic "Data-like" head tilts, Ron's look of contentment, Alan's goofy grin, Gina's looks of simmering patience, Jewel's enthusiasm, Sean's ability to play like he knows everything in the verse, and Adam just as goofy as he is.

These actors gave life to characters that were just written on a page, they gave them life and made them lovable to all. I would rather see whole new characters that to have the characters that I have grown to love so much mocked.

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Wednesday, July 27, 2022 3:11 AM

Joss is over, the more difficult part could be finding other specially talented actors to take such unique roles


Degrees of Firefly?

if Mal became an ate too many chocolate donut buns, Covid victim, no gym no exercise. Corona survivor Fatass

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I like Brendan Fraser
heard rumor some Weinstein dude tried to molest him but WTF happened?

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