Would you still fly?
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Obviously I'd have to but nothing ever could compare to the orginal cast I don'tcare if it was George Clooney(Mal),Rol Perman(Jayne),Dakota Fanning(River),Maggie Gynenhall(Kaylee),ect.
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I would give it a shot, but I would be extremely wary. I love Firefly too much to just cast it aside. I don't really see how anyone else could fill those shoes though... it would be a near miracle if they could make it work.
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I'm with FollowMal. I love Firefly unreasonably, and while I would certainly give any spin off or continuation a chance, I hold no illusion that it would be like getting my Firefly back any more than over-throwing the Alliance would erase Mal's loss at Serenity Valley. Hell, even with the actors and Joss, the movie could not fix the loss of Firefly for me.
Fact is, what I really want, I'm not going to get. It is undoable. The question is, would continuing the series with different actors somehow take away from what I currently have? Would it just be like rubbing salt in the wound? I guess I'd have to see it to know.
James Bond was a fully realized character in a series of books well before he was ever portrayed on screen, and those movies can hardly be described as character driven. (Though I haven't seen the most recent one.) Same for Sherlock Holmes and Dracula. And Dr. Who is arguably a completely different character each time he regenerates.
Malcolm Reynolds was an idea in Joss's head, etched out in a shooting script for a TV show pilot. Nathan was cast by the creator, and by Joss's own words he became Malcolm Reynolds. Nathan became part of Joss's creative process. Nathan as Mal is who Joss was writing about in the first aired episode. Nathan was not just portraying the character of Malcolm Reynolds, Nathan was part of the evolution of that character. The same is true of all the BDHs.
Inara's recasting is actually proof that who the actor is is important. Ms. Gayheart wasn't replaced because she got pregnant or got a better offer or something. She was replaced because she was not the character of Inara. She did not have the energy with the other character/actors that Inara would have. Joss could see that, and shot the scene knowing he would be replacing her. It doesn't mean she's not a fine actor; it doesn't mean she couldn't have made a wonderful character in the show. It just means that she was not Inara.
Hell's Kitten, I agree that as the actors themselves grow and change, their relationships with and portrayal of the characters would also be affected. That's part of why it's the impossible dream for me, for Firefly to come back. But it's like Mal's attitude...keep moving forward, keep flying. Changing the actors wouldn't be moving forward to me, it would be more like going back and redoing it, and thus rejecting what was. That only works when you're not so in love with the original as I am.
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Originally posted by IndependenceSoldier:
Okay, hypothetical question here. What if some station opted to pick up Firefly again (hope of all hopes), but on one condition. The whole cast had to be recasted. No Nathan, no Sean, no nobody. Completely new. Would you be able to watch it?
"You're usin' your wiles on me! Your feminine wiles!"
-Captain Malcom Reynolds
Hmmm....I love them hypotheticals. They tell so much about a person.
If you are using the same characters but different cast, I wouldn't watch. Cast chemistry is what hooked me most. I appreciate the plots, the dialog, an' the setting. But I just can't swallow if anyone would tell me, "Yeah, this is Mal" if it weren't Nathan behind Mal. That, to me, would be as phony as any Alliance tellin' me that Unification Day is a good thing (to use a metaphor).
Now, I'm pissed off as any that Wash and Book got done in, but if Joss is aiming for telling a real story, it means havin' to anyone of the cast, even Mal, bite it.
If there's any killin' that needs done, better to have an honorable death than a lie of a life. And that's why, no matter how hard someone might try an' sell me the idea that Firefly would be the same with a different cast, it really wouldn't.
So, I raise me glass to Nathan, Adam, Gina, Jewel, Sean, Morena, Summer...and especially Ron and Alan. May the actors who brought so much joy and clarity for too brief a time to this weary world find 2007 a great year!
Peace, y'all.
-Shaudawn (a.k.a. Donovan)
"Don't mean nuthin' out here in the Black." -Kaylee
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Originally posted by IndependenceSoldier:
I have to bring up a painful memory for all the fellow Whedonatics in this lovely 'Verse created for us...but didn't Joss already try that once with Angel? To my recollection...it didn't go too pretty.
I'd have to disagree. I don't know what show you were watching, but Angel was a well-acted, well-scripted show (okay, minus the fourth season). Maybe it was a spin-off, but I think it stood on it's own pretty well.
If Joss chose to do another show in the Firefly verse with different characters, I admit, I would have some reservations. But Joss hasn't let me down yet, so I'd be willing to give it a try.
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No ruttin' gorram way!
This cast IS Firefly. If you have heard about the events of Flan 2 (I was there) you'll understand that this show + these people are what made it what it is. If you don't know about Flan 2 you should look into it, interesting story. They not only save the day in the movies, but for some of us who got screwed by Booster Events 
Our Big Damn Heroes saved the day for real. I'm not talkin' Mal, Jayne, Wash, Book, Inara...(and our Big Damn Villains)Saffron, Tracy, Niska, Fanty, Badger.....
But Nathan, Adam, Alan, Ron..... well, you get the idea. These people showed up to support us, the fans. To meet us. Browncoat fans are Firefly fans but I think we all have become if we already were not, fans of the actors. Replacements are not an option for me.
Kain
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I'd watch it out of stubborn hope and a need for ANYTHING MORE - but like the person above me FINALLY said... the chemistry would NOT be the same. The chemistry the original actors had was astounding - and believe you me, that's not something a director can write in. Even if we could see individual actors playing the individual characters, how they interacted would not be the same - and I doubt it could be as good or better as that of the original cast.
BTW, since Book was barely in the movie, I didn't mind him being replaced, although he looks kinda stoned when Serenity's doors open...
JWHEDONADDICT - dude, Gilmore Girls was AWFUL after Amy Sherman-Palladino left the show. They took this wonderful, witty show about two women and their lives and their problems and their good qualities and their habit of talkingreallyfastbutsomehowstillalwaysmaintainingbothcorrectgrammaranddecentcontent into this near soap opera about just their LOVE LIVES and oh, there's boy drama, teehee and long silences fraught with meaning and ten minutes of music and MEANINGFUL shots and - well, Gilmore Girls is not a good example of a new Firefly. No. NONONO. Blech.
And DARKFLY, sorry, but I'd hate that hypothetical cast. George Clooney? Maggie Gyllenhaal? Dakota Fanning? Again, blech.
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Hello Kain,
Hope you don't mind me jump'n in here. I have a friend who was suppose to attend Flan 2 so I know what you are taking about.
I must add too that our BDH very seem like decent, kind & humble people. There are famous/ well known people in my family, and they always have been decent people. Fame has not change them. They still value friendships, family & their health.
So when I learn how friendly the cast & crew where on Firefly......I just loved the show even more.
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Hi!
Thanks for the reply! Yes they are the best. The hotel (Hilton)really treated us bad after Booster Events cancelled......they put Nathan and Alan on the patios to greet people after the they kicked us out of the bar and did I mention it was raining? Didn't stop our BDH's. They stood in the rain to sign autographs and take pics. I've never been more impressed. Christina Hendricks showed up and wasn't even originally scheduled. If it is posssible she is better looking in person.
Kain
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GWEK wrote:
Tuesday, January 02, 2007 06:14
I think this thread brings up an interesting side question.
Although it won't happen: Would you rather see Firefly with Joss and a new cast (same characters) or with the full cast, but no Joss?
I'd still give a try. As long as Berman and Braga have nothing to do with it. They'd end up rewriting the Battle of Serenity Valley into a naval battle and then the Borg would show up.
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