Would you still fly?
POSTED BY: IndependenceSoldier
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 3, 2022 06:53
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I do not have as much faith in Joss as others on here do.
I would watch the show, but I would hope it is all new characters and all new story to go along with all new actors.
It's an interesting 'verse, and the BDH are not the only ones to have anything nteresting happen to them.
If we do not get more firely, I would love to see related mini series.
I would love to see a Jayne arc. You know... life before Serenity.
Also obviously the Book arc. Could be like The Goidfather, telling two stories at the same time.
Then there are the underground movements, following Niska, the life and times of Jubal Early. A small series set in or just before the war would also be very interesting.
The 'verse has many interesting options.
All it has to be is not too fantastical (Firefly was not fantastical. The movie was slightly, but it was made to be bigger. It detracted from the 'verse.), have brilliant writing, good stories and believable characters.
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Simonwho,
Actors (good ones anyway) are not just a plug and play commodity. They spend a lot of time creating their characters. No two actors will bring you the same performance. Not even an understudy, though they do their best to come close.
That is part of the beauty of their craft. They take the director's general vision, a sense of the character, then translate the script through acting.
No two people think *exactly* the same, so no two people act exactly the same. They make different choices because of who they are and what they bring with them to the performance.
That's the whole point of auditions. The director is trying to weed through everybody who is not interpreting the character the way they hope. They search for the person who will best bring their work to life.
Anyway, that's what I was taught in college.
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Are you talking about new characters within the verse who we follow, or new actors in the old roles on a new ship....?
If it is a new bunch of characters roaming around in the verse then yes, because it would be another Joss show.
However if it is new actors playing the parts of 'our' old characters. Then.... No.
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Wow...I'm loving the responses! It makes me all tingly inside to know that I'm not alone with my "My gorramn backside nobody else could play these characters!" attitude. However I do respect those who are choosing to play devil's advocate and express their opinions too.
It just proves that there are two types of people: those who fell in love with the show as a whole and those who fell in love with the idea. Joss could have put on this show with anybody and the second type of browncoat would have watched it because they love the Independence and all that it stands for.
However I'm one of the breed who fell in love with the characters and the ship as much with the anti-establishment ideal that it promotes. I cannot imagine another version of Firefly with different people or different characters. It's almost as if I would not be able to live with myself for watching it.
As just one example: the reaction of Wash dying in the BDM. People freaked out and within 24 hours blogs, threads, and websites flooded the cortex with shrines and memorials, but more than that--the conspiracy theorist took it and ran with it. I know of at least ten different "ideas" for the next movie from various browncoats for how Wash is either not dead or could be brought back along with Book. People are in love with these characters and they cannot imagine the story continuing in any way without them.
"You're usin' your wiles on me! Your feminine wiles!"
-Captain Malcom Reynolds
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Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Simonwho,
Actors (good ones anyway) are not just a plug and play commodity. They spend a lot of time creating their characters. No two actors will bring you the same performance. Not even an understudy, though they do their best to come close.
That is part of the beauty of their craft. They take the director's general vision, a sense of the character, then translate the script through acting.
No two people think *exactly* the same, so no two people act exactly the same. They make different choices because of who they are and what they bring with them to the performance.
That's the whole point of auditions. The director is trying to weed through everybody who is not interpreting the character the way they hope. They search for the person who will best bring their work to life.
Anyway, that's what I was taught in college.
Case in point....*coughs* James Bond *coughs*
"You're usin' your wiles on me! Your feminine wiles!"
-Captain Malcom Reynolds
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Originally posted by nbz:
I do not have as much faith in Joss as others on here do.
I would watch the show, but I would hope it is all new characters and all new story to go along with all new actors.
It's an interesting 'verse, and the BDH are not the only ones to have anything nteresting happen to them.
If we do not get more firely, I would love to see related mini series.
I would love to see a Jayne arc. You know... life before Serenity.
Also obviously the Book arc. Could be like The Goidfather, telling two stories at the same time.
Then there are the underground movements, following Niska, the life and times of Jubal Early. A small series set in or just before the war would also be very interesting.
The 'verse has many interesting options.
All it has to be is not too fantastical (Firefly was not fantastical. The movie was slightly, but it was made to be bigger. It detracted from the 'verse.), have brilliant writing, good stories and believable characters.
I have to bring up a painful memory for all the fellow Whedonatics in this lovely 'Verse created for us...but didn't Joss already try that once with Angel? To my recollection...it didn't go too pretty.
"You're usin' your wiles on me! Your feminine wiles!"
-Captain Malcom Reynolds
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Originally posted by IndependenceSoldier:
Case in point....*coughs* James Bond *coughs*
Or Doctor Who or Dracula or Sherlock Holmes or anyone of countless other characters who have been played by different actors.
Yes it would be different but different doesn't always mean worse. Remember Inara was recast after shooting began - everyone would probably be just as insistent that Rebecca Gayheart was irreplacable had she not been replaced.
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It makes my stomach turn but I guess I'd tune in. I can not for the life of me understand why that would happen though.
Z
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Originally posted by IndependenceSoldier:
Case in point....*coughs* James Bond *coughs*
Or Doctor Who or Dracula or Sherlock Holmes or anyone of countless other characters who have been played by different actors.
Yes it would be different but different doesn't always mean worse. Remember Inara was recast after shooting began - everyone would probably be just as insistent that Rebecca Gayheart was irreplacable had she not been replaced.
However the main difference there is that the viewers never got the chance to see the other considered Inara. Once people see Inara on the screen she becomes locked in their minds. (To add another instance--Aragorn in LotR was originally going to be Stuart Townsend. Directors know who and who not to cast and they know when things aren't going to work out. Joss made a good call.)
"You're usin' your wiles on me! Your feminine wiles!"
-Captain Malcom Reynolds
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Originally posted by Penguin:
No...These people ARE Firefly.
No one else could play River the way Summer does...
No one else could play Mal the way Nathan does...
The same goes for the rest of the cast.
Joss created the germ...the BDH's brought it to life.
The BDH's and Firefly are one.
Amen to that.
I think I would constantly be comparing -- and finding it wanting. I'd be saying: "This is not at all how the real River would have acted." And similar comments for the entire crew. Until I'd realize there's simply no comparison, and that it really ain't FireFly I'm watching. At which point I would walk away.
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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam
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