I finally saw season 5 of ANGEL
POSTED BY: reginaroadie
UPDATED: Thursday, January 11, 2007 21:52
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Originally posted by LadySings:
....well believe you me, I am glad that you have! I am so frickin' upset that Wesley is gone. He was one of my favorite characters in both the Buffy/Angel 'verse. Now, can you apply this concept to Wash?!?!? LOL
I've yet to meet early Wes via Buffy, but the change and growth I saw in him over time in Angel was amazing. The whole 'sleeping w/ the enemy' thing he had w/ Lilah was simply great. I truly hated to see him die, thinking that somehow Illyria would 'fix ' him. When she asked if he wanted her to lie to him,... ouch.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by LadySings:
You know, it's funny. It took me the longest time to wrap my head around the concept that Fred's soul was TOTALLY gone
I still don't buy that. I mean, what source did that info come from? The creepy doctor. Why are we supposed to believe he's an expert on it? He wasn't even one of Illyria's accolytes, the way Knox was, was he? He'd just been paid off to carry out part of the plot--giving Gunn the upgrade in exchange for getting the sarcophogus out of customs.
And since the gang just bought it, and didn't do any further investigating on their own, who knows what the real story might be?
One of the rumors I remember hearing back when the show was ending was that in Joss' plans for S6, the gang was supposedly going to find some way to 'separate' Fred from Illyria, and Amy would then have played dual roles...
W/ out going to the DVDs to double check, I seem to recall that folks at W&H were trying stop Fred from Illyria's infection, but there was nothing they could do to stop it. That was the whole point of the ep SHELLS. That everything on the inside, meaning the soul, which made Fred who she was was being obliterated by Illyria. And yet fragments ( mental images, thoughts ? ) remained. Dunno if what remained was sufficent enough to reconstruct Fred's soul. But hey, Darla was summoned back from the grave and was reinstated as a human. Why her soul wasn't destroyed, it certainly had been absent from her body for a very long time. So who knows?
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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The transformation of Wes was one of the things that really drew me into the series. How he started out still as the prat he was on BUFFY ("ROUGE demon hunter!!") and then evolved into the kick-ass warrior. And I was incredibly heart broken to see him being cast out from the gang during most of Season's 3 and 4. I got a rush during "Apocalypse Nowish" when Angel tossed Wes the axe, basically accepting him back into the gang. And I kept waiting for him and Fred to get together, because in my mind they seemed like a better match than Fred and Gunn. I was never too big a Gunn fan. Oh well, better late and for ten minutes of an ep and a roleplay lie in the end than never.
I loved the "Spin the Bottle" ep so much because after we've seen Wes basically become even darker and broodier than Angel, if that's at all possible, you got to see the old Wes that won our hearts in the first place.
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Spike and Angel in Destiny blew me away; Handsless Spike still freaks me out; Andrew a Watcher???
Priceless!
Great season. On Nov. 28 the Angel slim sets come out- I may have to expand my Angelic knowledge...
3&4 virgin Chrisisall
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Quote:It happens along side of and after it, and some tie in is expected, as Joss said Angel and Spike would make 'appearances'. And they're out in (supposedly) March of 2007- anyone got a more solid date?
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
I'm wondering if the BUFFY Season 8 comics coming out next month will tie in with ANGEL season 5?
Just got the slim set of S5. Goin' thru it these days. Just too cool. Best TV this side of FF.
Corporeal Chrisisall
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I think it's the 7th of march, that's for you guys though, don't know if it will be out here then or if I'll have to wait for them to ship it over 
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Charlie, with the info, as always.
Thanks luv, Chrisisall
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I like Angel S5, but I still think you guys overrate it quite a bit.
Obviously, there are a lot of things to like, such as the Spike/Angel bantering, Ilyria, the return of Lindsey, 110% improved Connor, and a touching moment with Cordy. But I still can't help but feel that S5 had way more filler than either S2 or S3.
Even though it would've been nice to get a little more closure, the series had a great ending, and most of the eps leading up to it. My problem is with the beginning... It just seems like nothing of much importance really happens for the first half of the season, other than Spike appearing. And many of the events of the things that at one time might've held more weight now seem forced.
Again, not saying S5 is bad, I still love it. I just don't think it's the best Angel season by a long shot.
"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak." - Jayne
"Looks like wishes are horses today." - Spike
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This probably isn't the thread to say this but......
I couldn't stand season five. Just felt really, severely contrived.
*runs for the hills*
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Quote:WHAT!!!????
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I couldn't stand season five. Just felt really, severely contrived.
I thought you were a fan of Angel!
You thought season 4 was better????
(did I bold and underline enough to appear angry?)
You know, I found Angel as a series to be incredibly contrived. I didn't mind that; Buffy gave me a natural (if sometimes disturbing) flow that Angel had a hard time with. The very concept of demons as commonplace among us outside the Hellmouth is a big gear to shift to pull on us after what was supposedly established in Buffy.
Admit it Somnam, you just dont fancy Spike, that's it, right?

Souled Spike rules Chrisisall
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