Joss talks about Serenity/FF
POSTED BY: Rae
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 01:06
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Originally posted by BattlestarMinnesotia:
It's a large project, making a big superhero movie. But making a big budget movie that is a blockbuster will give him a "street cred" that could be...whats that business term?....levereged into a project more personal. Hmmmmm....what could that be? Perhaps right a terrible wrong and bring the world into alignment and all that stuff.
That's if it's a hit.
If not, Joss will be coming off of two movies that underperformed despite a built-in audience base, which will make his leverage in Hollywood very slight.
The lesson here: Everyone buy lots of tickets to WW when it comes out.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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That...of course...is an excellent point. So I guess he should REALLY concentrate on that movie to make sure it is a critical and commercial success. I'd expect that it's gonna have a huge marketing budget--toy crossovers, happy meals at MacDonalds, TV commercials, all the usual crap ("Crap" that Serenity never had if I recall). So it should have a good weekend or two at the very least. Whedon is very very good at what he does, so if he just does what he CAN do, well, it's as optimistic a scenario than we can rightfully expect, really. Frankly, I'm looking forward to that movie quite a bit.
BTW...got an old friend of mine into Battlestar first and then slipped Firefly in shortly after. His e-mail to me after about half the season...
"They cancelled this show???"
There ya have it, really. That pretty much says it all.
BSG-38 Minnesotia
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Originally posted by BattlestarMinnesotia:
I'd expect that it's gonna have a huge marketing budget--toy crossovers, happy meals at MacDonalds, TV commercials, all the usual crap ("Crap" that Serenity never had if I recall). So it should have a good weekend or two at the very least....
BSG-38 Minnesotia
Hmm, so did Catwoman and Elektra....
Luckily Joss can sneeze out something of higher quality than those films. But marketing doesn't nessesarily garuntee a decent opening.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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That's true of course. But it's better than NOT having the big marketing budget. It seems to me that one of the things that the Firefly-verse had against it was limited and ill-conceived marketing and presentation (out of order episodes, quick to cancel, etc.)
But its an obvious point of course, that marketing can't make shit---not stink.
I guess we'll find out when Wonder Woman arrives at a theatre near you!
BSG-38 Minnesotia
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'Kay, so what I have gathered from the thread so far it goes like this...
Joss got huuuuuuge success/reputation cause Buffy ran... and ran... and ran. So then Fox were like 'New series from Joss Whedon?? HELLS YEAH!' or similar sentence along those lines.
THEN due to unfortunate circumstances beyond anyones control, FF was released in the wrong kind of climate, so it didn't get a good audience. Thus Fox were like 'Dude you suck!'...
THEN due to pressure from fans because FF obviously was amazing (proved by DVD sales) Serenity got made, but because FF was cancelled it didn't get publicity other than 'Film made because of the fans, how sweet' etc, so it didn't box office well...
Because of that, Joss wasn't such hot property and not many of his projects have been successful, so in order for more FF to be recommissioned, he needs to be successful again so he can say 'Fox, hear me, I am Joss Whedon, make my amazing and shockingly ill-treated sci-fi show again!' and Fox will say 'A Joss Whedon series?? HELLS YEAH!'
So then all the Browncoats now have the responsibilty of buying copies of/tickets for all Joss Whedon's productions and/or all productions involving the BDH's so they are all hot property and their word will be law in production circles
That is me being long winded for the purposes of stating the obvious 
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Well lets boil 'er down to the essence of the entire Firefly phenomenon--Birth, death of, re-birth...then speculation......
Money Talks.......and thats it. 
But lot's and lots of: talking/posting/hoping/dreaming/rewatching/friend-involving/podcast
listening/fanfic-writing/convention-going/shindig throwing/midnight-screening going on.
BSG-38 Minnesotia
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I am a dedicated Browncoat.
I will admit that I was a late-comer, and didn't see any of it until I saw 'Serenity' in theaters...but that was all it took. I fell in love. I purchased 'Firefly: The Complete Series' a few weeks later (with my next paycheck), have watched all the discs and special features, dozens of times, purchased 'Serenity' when it was released.
Though I came late to it, I fell in love with 'The 'Verse' nonetheless. To see not only Joss but most of the original cast still interested in returning to Firefly if it was put back...it warms my heart, and gives me hope. I get the feeling that if we Browncoats stick with 'er just a little bit more, then love will indeed keep this boat sailing.
I think it's slowly dawning just how much people love 'The 'Verse',(and consequently how much money it will make them by exploiting that love) and I believe (and hope and pray) that it will soon reignite the show.
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Werd, glad to welcome you aboard our shiny boat. Personally, I've been out of the verse for a bit, but so very glad to be home and welcoming new recruits.
Maybe there's a chance we can make a difference -- maybe there's a chance that some little something that we say or do will make a change for the better. Until then, Werd, make yourself at home, pull up a chair, listen to the stories of your fellow travelers. And listen to FollowMal, wise woman that she is, stay away from the Mudder's Milk!
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RadarRese
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hello im a new browncoat. it took me a while to realize this notion I guess me n jayne are relatives! firefly/serenity has been quietly growing in my mind for a while then one day the realization slamed into me like a freight train!
I was very suprised at how powerful of impression the verse and firefly's crew made on me! im not one to rile easily, so few things have been personal to me, one is when princess di died and the second is the cancelation of firefly.
I think the reason it is so personal is that I was able to relate and bond with the charactors. these were not iconic heroic utopian type people but real, common everyday folk.. the kind you could expect to meet everyday on the street of the verse and while they wernt saints they were good people. The other part is the verse was believeable! it really took a bit of getting use to! cowboys in space, but joss's verse is by far the nearest to something I would expect to see in the future, its the best damn scifi I know to exist. it even puts to shame startrek and battlestar galatica. and for me thats saying alot!
my bigest regret is it took me so long to realize it.
brent
TV shows are like stars in the sky,
most quietly burn out and fade away,
a few explode and are noteworthy
but once every so often a star has the right ingredients and structure and mass and despite all reason refuses to fade away and does something
wonderful...
it explodes into a supernova far outshining a thousand stars and becoming something truely remarkable and precious and enduring.
joss whedon's firefly is such a star.
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Quote:Oh, I wouldn't say they were beyond anyone's control. They certainly weren't beyond Fox's control, 'cause they were the ones who set us up!
Originally posted by Fitch66:
THEN due to unfortunate circumstances beyond anyones control,
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