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The 76th Independent Battalion (part 7)

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:29 AM

I know it's been mentioned before that we'll be using a simplified version of the US Army ranks (no specialists or the like), but I have a question about the insignia. It's one that seems pertinent to me, given that my rank insignia is affected by the question.

Are we using the modern insignia, or the WW2 era ones? For example, here's the current day PFC stripe and the WW2 one, just to demostrate the differences.





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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:47 AM

We're using current. The WWII era one is the current one for Private. The only thing is we haven't decided on how the rank will be worn. I cast my vote for wearing it upside down, as Jayne wore the rank patch on his shirt in the Maidenhead that way.

Ranks will be:

Private (PVT)
Private First Class (PFC)
Corporal (CPL)

Sergeant (SGT)
Staff Sergeant (SSG)
Sergeant First Class (SFC)
First Sergeant (1SG) (as high as we'll go for now)

Lieutenant (LT)
Captain (CPT)
Major (MAJ)
Colonal (COL)
General (GEN)

I'm officially dropping PV1 and PV2 and opting for a single PVT rank. I will correct it on the website when I get a chance. I have also dropped 2LT and 1LT opting for a single lieutenant rank LT. Also Dropeed Lieutenant Colonal and kept Major, I just didn't feel that LTC was necessary and we know for a fact there was a Major rank (Mal and Zoe told the story about how Tracey had shaved off the Major's mustache and glued it to his own face).

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:58 AM

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

As far as Jayne's shirt is concerned, I think that may have just been an artistic choice of his, but I like the way it looks.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:10 PM

I thought that too, but I kinda like the ranks being upside down.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 12:13 PM

Nicodemus, it was my understanding that we would use modern Army rank insignia for the 76th, but that enlisted ranks would be turned upside down. The decision to turn them upside down came from the fact that Jayne wears a sergeants stripes on his jacket in the Maidenshead Bar in the BDM & they are upside down. Whether it is indicitive of how they are actually worn or not, who is to say, but it does look shiny & it will be different than how they are currently worn by the US military. Personally I have always liked enlisted insignia inverted as it was in the military prior to the current doctrine.

For example, current US military rank insignia for a sergeant (E-5) is this:

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The older, inverted style was this:

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I guess the older style was actually the original which would make the new style inverted. You get my meaning.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:17 PM

May I just add my 2 coin to the "groups tearing themselves apart before they even get started" thing. THIS IS MY OPINION ALONE, you don't like it, yell at me not the Big Damn Fans who are organizing this.

Many groups probably split because of EGOS, everyone wants their suggestion used. This group march was Tristan's idea, he set up is Chain of Command (don't make me remind you about that) and they set down our "rules" for the 76th. It's their game, they decide. So check your egos at the door and you'll have a damn fine time. Sit back let those in command do the "tough" stuff but do feel free to voice your ideas, they do listen. Browncoat fans are the finest in the Verse and I really don't see conflict arising but if you don't like the 76th history then make your own for your character that you just joined up, so you weren't part of the "history". Does it really matter which way the star points or which way the stripes face (how about sideways - LOL) Of course it doesn't.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 1:24 PM

mornin' soldiers.

FFG - that is a damn fine way of putting it, well said

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:18 PM

Both sleeves are now knitted, they will be redyed this evening which with this weeks humidity means drying time they should be ready for metal "finishing" towards the end of the week, then off to the leatherworkers :)

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:54 PM

I second fireflygal's two cents and raise it to FOUR cents!! Ego can get out of hand; here's a suggestion - if you'd like to write your own character's story and send it to Doc to be included in the history of the 76th...that'd be great! And you history/story can include the evolution of your particular sidearm/weapon/knife whatever..how does that sound, CO Tristan, sir?? Hope I'm not being too presumptious here.
Oh, ArtCat..can't wait to see the sleeves; I've got the folks at ImaginKnit on hold until I see what you've come up with...Hmmm humidity...I am familiar with that, being in Tenn. and all; ..hair dryer?? Just a wacky suggestion! Take care troops, as the Christmas Chaos is upon us!! Yikes, I'm expected a veritable RUSH of Relatives shortly; but I'm committed (or should I BE committed??) to staying in touch and on the board and voting often throughout the next two weeks..
Have a great Tuesday everyone.

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:55 PM

Morning, 76th!

First off, thank you FFG for your words. It is sometimes odd to remember that this idea started out in my head. Look what it is turning into! This is great, this is shiny! I am just glad that everyone is as gung-ho as I am! But you are right. I do have a chain of command, and we are deciding the direction in which the 76th will move. We love the ideas and input, but it is true that not everything can be used. So, please do not be offended...anyone...if something you suggest is not used. Many of my own ideas have to be put to the side in order to get things done.
Above all, this is for fun...but ordered, organized, uniform fun! No matter what happens between now and the parade, the moment we start walking down that street lined with people, and they see what we have created, and we see the smiles in their faces, it will all be worth it, believe me!

Ok, on to the business.

Not sure I have to, but I concur with the ranking system BWTP has come up with.

I was also under the impression that we had decided on using the "upside-down" rank insignia. If it has not been decided, then I go ahead and propose that we accept this as part of the uniform of the 76th.
We could also bounce around ideas for placement of the rank insignia. I know we started this on one of the past threads, but I don't think we decided on where to display the rank on the Type B uniform. I think it would help if I designed and built a Type B smock before we really discuss this in detail.

RIMG, good morning to you, too!

ArtCat, thank you for the update. I can't wait to see them! Stupid humidity making us wait!

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