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Dont you think its hypocritical.....

POSTED BY: BionicBatman
UPDATED: Sunday, December 17, 2006 09:24
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SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:30 AM

@SignyM:

Hi-larious

@YinYang:

You've definitely been doing too much math.

Out of curiosity, what Field () have you had too much of?

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PIRATENEWS

Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Ah, Piratenews. Always good for a laugh.

Your illiteracy is showing. Your critical thinking is DOA. Your googlefoo is kaput, since you're admittedly incapable to doing any research on your own, without being spoonfed. What a pathetic way to go through life, as a moron. I bet you never studied in skool, and only barely passed by cheating off other peoples' homework. Or do you really believe the entire internet is composed of only the links I posted?

For example:

Quote:

Chinese authorities bust `illegal' Christian meeting

AFP, BEIJING
Sunday, Aug 06, 2006

About 90 children and 40 underground Christians were detained briefly in eastern China after police raided a Sunday school teacher training session, a rights group and an official said on Friday.

Li Lizhong, 40, who provided his home for the meeting, and Cai Yili, 38, were given 15 days of detention, it said.

A staff member at the Gudian township police station confirmed the incident.

Re-education

"They were involved in illegal evangelism ... most have been released after re-education but two are still detained," an officer surnamed Guan said.

"Li Lizhong is always evangelizing illegally at his home so we have to educate him," he said.

China Aid Association said some Christians were beaten in the incident, and police confiscated a number of belongings including a computer, electric organ and loudspeakers.

www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2006/08/06/2003322041

Three Christians in China Secretly Executed

Xu Shuangfu, Li Maoxing and Wang Jun, leaders of the "Three Grades of Servants" underground church, were secretly executed for murder last week by the Chinese communist regime. Xu Shuangfu's attorney Li Heping received a phone call from the court and learned this news.

This case was internally referred to as the "Thunder No. 1" big case within the Ministry of Public Security. This case has involved as many as 63 people. It started in March 2003, and spread to Shandong, Jiangxi, Sichuan and another seven provinces. To date, 22 people have been sentenced to death, and 12 more people have been executed.

While being interviewed by The Epoch Times, Attorney Li Heping said, "Today the court called me to ask for my address, saying that they need to mail me the final judgment paper. I asked for the status of this case. The judge said that the people were executed last week. I was very shocked. We have not obtained the final judgment paper nor have the family members been able to see the defendants, but they have already been executed. This is indeed too out of control."

Neither the attorney nor the reporter could contact the family of Xu Shuangfu. According to some insiders, because Xu's sister exposed the torture her brother received in jail, she has been tortured to the point of mental breakdown and was arrested and detained in jail.

Li Maoxing's wife told The Epoch Times that she received the phone call from Shuangya Middle Court, telling her to go to the court immediately to get Li's ashes. She grieved, "I have not gone to get the ashes, I can't take this anymore, and I don't want to go anyway."

"Three Grades of Servants" is a denomination of the underground church in China, with a reported number of over half a million followers in China. The leader of the denomination, Xu Shuangfu, was accused of illegal missionary work and organizing evil cult activities and sent to a labor camp and sentenced to over ten years in prison.

This July, the first court hearing sentenced Xu Shuangfu and another three people to death. The other three were sentenced to 15 years in prison. From October 17 to 19, the Heilongjiang Provincial High Court held the second hearing on this case at the Shuangya Municipal Middle court.

Attorney Li Heping said, "All the defendants in this case were Christians. The defendants were accused of committing crimes while their religion was not mentioned. I think there is a problem here."

He said that the evidence pres

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REDLAVA

Saturday, December 16, 2006 8:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BionicBatman:
No i do not celebrate either of those holidays. Good job you know me so well. I dont wear green on St. Patricks Day. And if someone pinches me for not, i get them back twice as hard. Halloween is just an excuse for kids to get candy from complete strangers, parents go out and party, and teens killing animals. Two holidays to where if you dont play along you pay the price.

Just curious here but what do you believe in?

I am pretty much a Realist/Agnostic. I only believe in what I can see, smell, taste, and touch. I personally don't need an invisible man who lives in the sky or a book to tell me what is right and what is wrong. I tend to live by the "golden rule," do on to others as you would have them do on to you. It's that simple.

PIRATENEWS

Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Redlava:
Quote:
Originally posted by BionicBatman:
No i do not celebrate either of those holidays. Good job you know me so well. I dont wear green on St. Patricks Day. And if someone pinches me for not, i get them back twice as hard. Halloween is just an excuse for kids to get candy from complete strangers, parents go out and party, and teens killing animals. Two holidays to where if you dont play along you pay the price.

Just curious here but what do you believe in?

I am pretty much a Realist/Agnostic. I only believe in what I can see, smell, taste, and touch. I personally don't need an invisible man who lives in the sky or a book to tell me what is right and what is wrong. I tend to live by the "golden rule," do on to others as you would have them do on to you. It's that simple.

Yes, but do you tolerate Bush dancing nekked at Bohemian Grove and sacrificing his conscience to Molech, then slaughtering millions in the Garden of Eden? Do you believe in citizen's arrest of homicidal dictators? Or only when they kill you or your loved ones, then Jew you out of restitution? Even pagans must realize that "Jewish" Luciferian atheists in the White House are bad for everyone's health.

The design of most religions is to keep society from self destruction. It's a neverending war between criminals who want to hijack religion for mind control, and those who love life. Good vs evil. God vs Satan. Religion says there's God in everyone. Rabbi Jesus said that, so the Jewish rabbis murdered him with false accusations of treason against the Roman Empire, then declared war on all Christians.

The War for Xmas is a battle of Good vs Evil. But which side is Xmas on?

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EVILDINOSAUR

Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:14 PM

No, because Christmas is not just about the birth of Jesus. I know, I know, his name is right there is the name of the holiday, but the holiday has a secular side as I'm sure you've noticed.

I don't recall anything about santa or flying reindeer in the bible's telling of Jesus' birth. Yet these symbols are completely a part of Christmas nowadays, in america at least.

Christmas to the non-christian community is about peace and goodwill, caring more for giving than for receiving, etc. There's alot more to christmas than just Jesus' birth (which didn't really occur in December anyway, it's in March or something if I remember correctly)

So no, it's not hypocritical at all.

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NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
In fact, there is at least one culture (German) that has a name for this holiday season that has nothing to do with Christianity at all

OK, I'll admit how ignorant I am. I believe you., but I've never heard it.

What DO they call it? and what does it mean?

REDLAVA

Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:52 PM

Quote:

The design of most religions is to keep society from self destruction.

Oh yes religion has done an increadible job of just that. Lets see, how many wars have been caused by this?

-Lets start with the Crusades which occured off and on for 170 years between Christians and just about everybody else.

-Huguenot Wars in France between Protestants and Catholics which lasted for 30 years.

-The 30 Years War which started off as a religious conflict between Protestants and Catholics.

-Amost forgot about the Holocaust during WW2.

-IRA vs. Protestants in Ireland.

-Lets not forget pretty much the entire Middle East has been at war with each other over various things, mostly religion, for hundreds if not thousands of years which has spilled over into our borders with certain recent terrorist attacks.

These are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. I am not saying that all wars are the result of religious conflicts, but religion does seem to pop up in one way or the other in many of them.

I'll leave you with a quote from the movie Dogma that I like...

Rufus: He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name - wars, bigotry, but especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it.
Bethany: Having beliefs isn't good?
Rufus: I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant.

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:

OK, I'll admit how ignorant I am. I believe you., but I've never heard it.

What DO they call it? and what does it mean?

So was I until I got a German wife.

The word is, Weihnachten. It means something like, sacred night. But, that translation isn't really that good, as most will probably tie 'sacred' to something Christian. Which it has no ties to.

One of the myths about that night is that the animals can speak and people can understand them.

EDIT: More from the wife:

Weihnachten, is also known as 'festival/celebration of love', which means that people want to spend time with there loved ones and be nice to each-other, etc. This is of course the idealistic view. One in which comedians take advantage of

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PIRATENEWS

Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Redlava:
Quote:

The design of most religions is to keep society from self destruction.

Oh yes religion has done an increadible job of just that. Lets see, how many wars have been caused by this?

-Lets start with the Crusades which occured off and on for 170 years between Christians and just about everybody else.

-Huguenot Wars in France between Protestants and Catholics which lasted for 30 years.

-The 30 Years War which started off as a religious conflict between Protestants and Catholics.

-Amost forgot about the Holocaust during WW2.

-IRA vs. Protestants in Ireland.

-Lets not forget pretty much the entire Middle East has been at war with each other over various things, mostly religion, for hundreds if not thousands of years which has spilled over into our borders with certain recent terrorist attacks.

These are just the ones I can name off the top of my head. I am not saying that all wars are the result of religious conflicts, but religion does seem to pop up in one way or the other in many of them.

I'll leave you with a quote from the movie Dogma that I like...

Rufus: He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets carried out in His name - wars, bigotry, but especially the factioning of all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always, built a belief structure on it.
Bethany: Having beliefs isn't good?
Rufus: I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant.

As I pointed out, criminals hijack all organized religions, to convert them into organized crime SINdicates. Luciferian (Jewish) Freemasons have infiltrated all Christian churches at the highest levels. That's why all creeds of Protestants are adopting Celtic Knots (666) as their official logos. The Catholic church prints its official books with Jewish Dell Publishing at 666 Fifth Ave NY NY. Masonic (Jewish) controlled churches and govts stand down and refuse to fight for the 10 Commandments in schools and courthouses, for daring to forbid lying, stealing and killing.

Quote:

"The true name of Satan is, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism and Idoltry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good; but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument for Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; hence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpant, and the Light-Bearer, or Phosphor of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend."
-General Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", page 102
http://www.srmason-sj.org

"The Apocalypse is, to those who receive the 19th Degree, the Apotheosis of that Sublime Faith which aspires to God alone, and despises all the pomps and works of Lucifer. LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"
-General Albert Pike, "Morals and Dogma of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry", Masonic bible "Morals and Dogma", page 321
http://www.srmason-sj.org

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-Mason Manley P. Hall, "The Lost keys of Freemasonry", page 48

"There is in nature a one most potent force, by me

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DESKTOPHIPPIE

Saturday, December 16, 2006 7:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Ah, Piratenews. Always good for a laugh.

Your illiteracy is showing. Your critical thinking is DOA. Your googlefoo is kaput, since you're admittedly incapable to doing any research on your own, without being spoonfed. What a pathetic way to go through life, as a moron. I bet you never studied in skool, and only barely passed by cheating off other peoples' homework. Or do you really believe the entire internet is composed of only the links I posted?

For example:
Quote:

Chinese authorities bust `illegal' Christian meeting

AFP, BEIJING
Sunday, Aug 06, 2006

About 90 children and 40 underground Christians were detained briefly in eastern China after police raided a Sunday school teacher training session, a rights group and an official said on Friday.

Li Lizhong, 40, who provided his home for the meeting, and Cai Yili, 38, were given 15 days of detention, it said.

A staff member at the Gudian township police station confirmed the incident.

Re-education

"They were involved in illegal evangelism ... most have been released after re-education but two are still detained," an officer surnamed Guan said.

"Li Lizhong is always evangelizing illegally at his home so we have to educate him," he said.

China Aid Association said some Christians were beaten in the incident, and police confiscated a number of belongings including a computer, electric organ and loudspeakers.

www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2006/08/06/2003322041

Three Christians in China Secretly Executed

Xu Shuangfu, Li Maoxing and Wang Jun, leaders of the "Three Grades of Servants" underground church, were secretly executed for murder last week by the Chinese communist regime. Xu Shuangfu's attorney Li Heping received a phone call from the court and learned this news.

This case was internally referred to as the "Thunder No. 1" big case within the Ministry of Public Security. This case has involved as many as 63 people. It started in March 2003, and spread to Shandong, Jiangxi, Sichuan and another seven provinces. To date, 22 people have been sentenced to death, and 12 more people have been executed.

While being interviewed by The Epoch Times, Attorney Li Heping said, "Today the court called me to ask for my address, saying that they need to mail me the final judgment paper. I asked for the status of this case. The judge said that the people were executed last week. I was very shocked. We have not obtained the final judgment paper nor have the family members been able to see the defendants, but they have already been executed. This is indeed too out of control."

Neither the attorney nor the reporter could contact the family of Xu Shuangfu. According to some insiders, because Xu's sister exposed the torture her brother received in jail, she has been tortured to the point of mental breakdown and was arrested and detained in jail.

Li Maoxing's wife told The Epoch Times that she received the phone call from Shuangya Middle Court, telling her to go to the court immediately to get Li's ashes. She grieved, "I have not gone to get the ashes, I can't take this anymore, and I don't want to go anyway."

"Three Grades of Servants" is a denomination of the underground church in China, with a reported number of over half a million followers in China. The leader of the denomination, Xu Shuangfu, was accused of illegal missionary work and organizing evil cult activities and sent to a labor camp and sentenced to over ten years in prison.

This July, the first court hearing sentenced Xu Shuangfu and another three people to death. The other three were sentenced to 15 years in prison. From October 17 to 19, the Heilongjiang Provincial High Court held the second hearing on this case at the Shuangya Municipal Middle court.

Attorney Li Heping said, "All the defendants in this case were Christians. The defendants were accused of committing crimes while their religion was not mentioned. I think there is a probl

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