Starbuck is a HO-BAG
POSTED BY: STDOUBT
UPDATED: Saturday, December 16, 2006 21:19
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I totaly agree with MSG. I liked Boomer and Tigh in the original because they were good guys so Devonnite and I agree. The original Starbuck was a cool ladies man having a good time in a bad situation not a sloppy volger self piting drunk. Starbuck would never screw over his friends and love ones. He was always their in a pinch too. It seems to me that BSG and her fleet are a bunch of scum bags headed to earth to lay their troubles at our door step. With the cylons in tow. I say when they jump into our solar system we turn the lights out. We leave a message on Pluto, Earth 3 jumps ahead in 2 sun solar system.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by STDOUBT:
I'd put this in frakinggalactica but it's down.
I used to buy Starbuck as acharacter. I used to freaking LOVE her. The whole 'troubled childhood, rebellious misfit' thing, and to round it out -the fleets best pilot! No more. She's just not woking for me at all now. Here's a list of her crimes:
She got her fiancee killed, she screwed over Lee by marrying that dork the day after declaring her love for Lee. Then she turns around and dogs the dork. She displayed bloodlust in the secret execution group, only to realize later she was FOS. Then she's so mean to Kat, that Kat sends herself on basically a suicide mission. Kat was arguably as good a pilot as Starbuck too!
So, Kara is mean to people who don't deserve it, then she gets all contrite, and acts like an angel, then she starts being a mean b***ch all over again. I am DONE with Starbuck. She sucks big-time. In fact, I can't recall a fictional character who I've hated more. Watch -now she'll probably try and steal Lee away from Duella because that's just her MO now. Being a HO-BAG!
But she's really not simply a bad person -she's good and goddamned mental (and not in a sympathetic River Tam way) IMO, and shouldn't be allowed on the Galactica. She should pack up and ship out. If anyone else dies this season I really hope it's Starbuck.
Kara, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't disagree on any particular point. Kara went over the edge of likability.
Her acting highlight, far as I'm concerned, is when she was all vulnerable, half in shock, unable to process the info, when the real mother of "her" child showed up and took her away. That was class acting; and I really felt for her; and with her. It all went pretty fast downhill from there on.
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Originally posted by Arcadia:
(re Kat:) I mean, how would you feel if you found out one of your friends might be partly responsible for the genocide of the human race and everything that happened afterwards, including your torture?
Say what?? Kat, at the most, used to be a petty drug-runner. Yup, Kara, in one foul swoop, accused her of betraying the entire human race, Gaias style; but that don't necessarily make it so, now does it? In fact, Kara was bs-ing throughout the entire convo.
Besides, if anyone has f-ed up beyond all recognition, and been redeemed an equal number of times, then it's Kara. She, of all people, save Gaias perhaps, should be the last one to pass judgement on Kat for having made some bad choices in the past.
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Originally posted by DevonNite:
I've tried to follow the New BSG, but I find it difficult because they took the only two characters of color, on the original show, Boomer and Tigh, and changed one into a women and the other into a drunken white male. There are no strong, highly placed characters of color on this new show ....
Esscuseme??
Doesn't Latino count as "color"? I'm only referring to the *most* highly placed character on the show: Commander Adama...
...Edward James Olmos
"He was born in East Los Angeles, California to a Southern Baptist Mexican immigrant with 1/4 Hungarian Jewish ancestry (the family name was originally Olmosh) and a Mexican American Catholic mother."~Wikipedia
SNAP! :-P
Thanks for all your feedback, people.
As for Lee not being an innocent in all of it, true but overall, I'd say he's still far and away a more honorable character that Miss Thrace.
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Originally posted by STDOUBT:
-she's good and goddamned mental (and not in a sympathetic River Tam way)
from the fall finale. (paraphrased???)
Lee: This is insane.
Kara: Just the way I like it.
latest vid
the lyrics http://www.greenplastic.com/lyrics/lucky.php
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Originally posted by STDOUBT:Quote:
Originally posted by DevonNite:
I've tried to follow the New BSG, but I find it difficult because they took the only two characters of color, on the original show, Boomer and Tigh, and changed one into a women and the other into a drunken white male. There are no strong, highly placed characters of color on this new show ....
Esscuseme??
Doesn't Latino count as "color"? I'm only referring to the *most* highly placed character on the show: Commander Adama...
...Edward James Olmos
"He was born in East Los Angeles, California to a Southern Baptist Mexican immigrant with 1/4 Hungarian Jewish ancestry (the family name was originally Olmosh) and a Mexican American Catholic mother."~Wikipedia
SNAP! :-P
Thanks for all your feedback, people.
As for Lee not being an innocent in all of it, true but overall, I'd say he's still far and away a more honorable character that Miss Thrace.
Touch'e on the EJ Olmos bit. He was actually a cool guy when I was with them on the Miami Vice set back in the 80's
I was refering to Black characters, played by Terry Carter and Herb Jefferson, Tigh and Boomer respectively,but I was unclear and it is something that bothered me. Don't get me wrong I would rather see Grace Park then either of them but it would have been nice to see atleast one of the major characters stay as the original was.
Great now my wife is going to read this and say "What's with Black men and Asian women?"
Gorramit woman I married you didn't I?
Time to go make amends.
Interviewer: What's your prediction for the fight?
Clubber Lang: My prediction?
Interviewer: Yes, your prediction.
Clubber Lang: PAIN!
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Im with you 100%. Im kinda over that show now. If they kill her I think ill keep watching.
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Originally posted by STDOUBT:
So, Kara is mean to people who don't deserve it, then she gets all contrite, and acts like an angel, then she starts being a mean b***ch all over again. I am DONE with Starbuck. She sucks big-time. In fact, I can't recall a fictional character who I've hated more.
Kara, YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmm , Kara is a Ho-Bag ! " Yeah , but she's OUR Ho-Bag , so cut her the hell down ! " .
Oh , now you've done that ! Thanks !
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I never liked Starbuck, not once. She's always been my most hated character on the show (followed by Kat). Lee used to be one of my favorites, but this season he has crossed the line to "meh"-ness.
This episode and the last have me worrying about BSG's direction. Hopefully this will be like that 3-4 episode slump last season, and the show can pick up after getting the crap out of the way.
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