Joss talks about Serenity/FF
POSTED BY: Rae
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 01:06
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Ok, seriously, if Universal is dumb enough to do this: http://www.movieweb.com/news/99/7299.php
then they owe us a sequel to a movie that actually is enjoyable, such as a Serenity sequel. Don't get me wrong, loved Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English and the Mr. Bean tv shows, but the first movie sucked!! and now they making a second!?! Come on, Universal, invest in a movie that'll make you bank!!!
You shot me in the back!!
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Thanks so much for posting this Rae! It's always comforting to me whenever I hear anything related to Firefly & Joss. Although his comments were both disappointing and interesting, I found his admission to loving Battlestar Galactica the most confusuing. I know I've seen "extra" material of Joss on the dvd set or the movie and I clearly recall him stating that he created Firefly because he felt that sci-fi on television had become too high tech and cold and he imagined his universe of less high tech and more character driven stories.
As far as Firefly/Serenety's future continuation, I never worry about it...'cause I know that it will happen, has to happen, it's predictable & inevidable, and will be better than ever wherever and whenever it re-surfaces....How do I know this?....Because Hollywood is basically retarded and has no ideas....freshness and quality are so extremely rare...most everything last decade or so has been cloned & rehashed crap... Movie remakes of 60's & 70's shows??...8,127 shows on tv about Law & Order & Crime stuff & how successful they are...Now that IS science fiction...& of course the all the lawyers, doctors,etc you can stomach. Even the movies Sci Fi channel makes are childish and lame....but exceptions like HBO films are a bright beacon of hope...SO...all we Browncoats need to expect that there's at least ONE OTHER person out there in La LA Land who will ...somehow...somewhere...someday...have a lightning bolt go thru his little A-type brain and Firely-Serenity will come back packaged to the hilt for mass audience consumption...he'll be hailed as a genius...whiz kid...well, maybe not all that 'cause Mary Parent , our best friend at Universal, didn't get the payoff for her 100% support...but TV is different...A few great promos..and then SHOW the thing when ya say ya will...and voila..we're back..and loving it!
Shiny Holidays To All!
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The scary thing is Bean 2 will probably make more money than Serenity did... Of course if they made a new Serenity 2? That would be a differen story altogether!
"All that is gold does not glitter..."
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Just be patient, grasshoppers... uhh, Browncoats... Babylon 5 is doing some direct to DVD movies, as is Stargate SG-1... sites like YouTube are showing that online media can truly challenge conventional Network TV... the time is nearly here when dumb-ass executives and bean-miscounting accountants will be out of work and on the street, as they will have lost touch with their true masters - the audience...
What do you think would happen if Universal put together a direct to DVD Firefly "multi-arc movie" that was actually just a series of 6 episodes? The fans, en masse, would buy it... that's what.
They (F*x, Universal, etc.) should go back, finish season 1, sell the crap out of the set, then when the dust settles, move on to season 2, straight to DVD... another dozen episodes or so... They could then sell these not only as DVDs, but also as TV for overseas markets, as well as on-line downloads. They WOULD make money... lots of it. But, yes... they would lose a lot of power and control - the people would get the credit for the success of a show, not some whiz kid executive - and that is what they truly fear.
To hell with network TV... I ditched my digital cable in favour of buying DVD sets... I hate commercials and I hate to wait for episodes... I'd prefer to plow through 22 uncut, commercial free, episodes in a few weeks, and then wait a year, rather than piece-meal them with Burger King and deodorant ads over the course of 9 months...
I just wish the PTB would finally get some balls and realize that's what people want... that, and the absolute destruction of the AC Neilsen ratings system...
here endeth the rant...
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Much work remains to be done before we can announce our total failure to make any progress...
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Quote:No, no precedent, but since when has that stopped Browncoats?
Originally posted by werd:
I'm wondering, is there a precedence for anything like Rae suggests (fans helping to fund a major motion picture).
(There was no precedent for a big-screen movie from a less-than-a-season TV show, either.)
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Hey guys Im all for any kind of continuation of the series or movies, but does anyone remember that two of the best characters died? I mean yeah maybe they can get away with the preacher bein gone but, without Wash, Zoe aint much... so it might not be as good as it can be but if Joss says he has an inkling to do more he got to have a few ideas up his sleave....what do you think??
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Joss has killed off characters before (repeatedly, in some cases) and no doubt will again (and again, and again).
There's more story to tell.
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How are TV series rights bought and sold?
I know jack-nothing about this stuff, obviously, but what if -- instead of trying to fund another movie -- we bought the Firefly rights from Fox and gave them to Joss?
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Originally posted by Indi:
How are TV series rights bought and sold?
I know jack-nothing about this stuff, obviously, but what if -- instead of trying to fund another movie -- we bought the Firefly rights from Fox and gave them to Joss?
Problem there is, they can ask any price they want for the rights, if they even choose to put them on the market. As long as they're making cash off the DVDs, which requires no further financial output from them, there's not much reason for them to do so.
If anything, there is more incentive for them not to sell the rights. If they do, no more revenue stream from the DVDs (and other merch, like T-Shirts). And, if someone else were to make a Firefly series a success, it just proves that Fox screwed up in the first place - and if there's one thing Corporate America does not do, is admit they screwed up.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Hey everyone, here's my two cents
I loved the movie, but the story seems so much more suited to episodic TV. I mean, I doubt if the situation were reversed and the movie came out FIRST, there would not have been such a huge fan upswelling from the one movie. That would have meant no sequel, let alone a TV show and this forum would not exist. So a TV show (or miniseries') seems to me to be the best medium for Firefly. It allows for longer story arcs, more exposition, more development of these characters we come to love like old friends.
Personally, I think we are in kind of a Golden Age of TV right now, with the success of Battlestar, Heroes and all. But the current Neilson rating system so elloquently attacked above is clearly a dinosaur in need of an asteroid. But the ratings set the money and all that blah blah blah.
I'm no Joss Whedon Oracle, but personally I think this is a promising sign. It's a large project, making a big superhero movie. But making a big budget movie that is a blockbuster will give him a "street cred" that could be...whats that business term?....levereged into a project more personal. Hmmmmm....what could that be? Perhaps right a terrible wrong and bring the world into alignment and all that stuff.
Yep, back to TV, probably on Sci-Fi Channel. Hell, cast some of the dead BSG cast in some roles while he's at it
Thats my thoughts
BSG-38 Minnesotia
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