Where were Jayne and Wash during the war?
POSTED BY: SixGun
UPDATED: Thursday, December 21, 2006 23:25
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We know where Mal and Zoe were. Kaylee and River were probably just kids. Simon was no doubt in medical school. We get the idea Book had some Alliance connection so was probably involved in some way. Inara was probably entering the Academy. Not many clues in regard to Jayne and Wash.
In Train Job Jayne says "I didn't fight in no war. Best of luck, though." Personally, I believe he was probably in prison the whole time. He seems to have military training. Perhaps he was a soldier at the beginning but did something to get thrown into prison, perhaps slugged a commanding officer.
Wash is a pilot but has no military demeanor at all and in fact has that not liking Zoe calling Mal sir thing going on. In a couple episodes and in Serenity he seems competant in evasion techniques but with the exception of War Stories, we never see him touch a gun. Where were these guys?
Well, as a rule I say girl folk ain't to be trusted.
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Jayne deliberately stayed out of the war because the money wasn't good enough on either side. He was probably thieving, as he usually is.
Wash... well, gues we'll never know. Because it was never decided. Alan has said he was working out a backstory for Wash in whcih Wash flew one mission (supply run, probably) for the Browncoats, was captured and made a POW, then spent the remainder of the war in camp entertaining fellow inmates with shadow puppets. It's an amusing idea, but I'm not sure Joss would have necessarily made it the offical backstory.
Arcadia (aka Greyfable and/or Katie)
www.stillflying.net -- picking up Firefly were Joss left off. We will hold 'til he gets back.
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With a fat 'stache like his, the Browncoats woulda won if Wash fought with them.
A moustache like the one he had in Out of Gas is something to be feared.
I don't know about Jayne, but Arcadia is right about Wash, at least... I think it's for the commentary on War Stories (then on to The Message) that Alan explains his shadow puppet idea... he helped enforce it by including the line into a couple of episodes.
Distract them.
With what? Shadow puppets?
paraphrase
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I believe it was The Message commentary, where Mal tells Wash to hold them off and he says "What? Do I do shadow puppets?" or something like that.
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I always wondered about the correlation between the colors that are used as background during the opening credits, and the backgrounds of the characters. This has probably already been delved into, but I see it like this: First, the obvious ones, Mal and Zoe, brown, for Browncoats. Inara and Jayne green, for money. Inara's a compantion and Jayne will do anything if you pay him enough. Which, in my own roundabout way, is what I think he was doing during the war. And then Simon and River, purple, because they spent thier whole lives with the Alliance. Alright, the ambiguous ones. So, Wash is Brown, right? I feel like he had a hand in the war, and maybe ran with the Browncoats. Okay, Kaylee, not sure why she's green. I mean, techinically she's being paid for being the mechanic on Serenity. Well, I still haven't completely worked out that one yet. And then finally, the secret history of Shepard Book. We know he has some connection with the Alliance, we just don't know what it is, yet. So, I figure, given more time, Joss would have explained everything to us. Oh, I need to go ahead and start up my production company so I can get started funding Serenity 2: The Return of Book and Wash. Oh well, I'm working on it.
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I don't know if I agree with some of the colour meanings, but the general idea seems right on.
I don't know if green signifies money as much as it signifies pleasure. Inara picks her partners, right, so it isn't just based on wealth.
But moving on, I'm pretty sure Jayne was just banditing. We know that the events that made Jayne the Hero of Canton took place some four years before "present" day. And I think it's safe to assume he didn't hook up with Mal's crew until a couple months or even a couple of years (because note that Mal had obviously gotten Serenity up and running and had established enough of a name for himself to have a bit of a reputation BEFORE Marco's band (Jayne among them) attacked).
And Wash had a reference list "as long as [Mal's] leg", so I think it's fair to assume that he was flying plenty of odd-jobs during the war, if he didn't actively participate in it.
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Yeah, but green for pleasure doesn't make as much sense as green for money. Even though, I don't know if future cashy money is green or not, but bear with me. Okay, yeah, Inara chooses her partners, but nonetheless she's paid for it. And all the registration with the Guild in the world doesn't change that. Jayne is about the money. Why'd he switch sides to join the crew of Serenity in the first place? Well, I remember something about a bigger bunk, but Mal promised him more money.
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I noticed that they use chinese notes (name of currency.. beats me), which are more of a faded kind of beige with purple/red colouring than anything else.
If Inara was all about money, she would pick her clients based on their wealth, not her personal connection to them. Seems wrong to group Inara with Jayne, as Jayne is greedy and Inara is choosey.
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How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don't you think?
A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.
That hat makes you look like an idiot.
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Okay, yeah, I see where you're going with this. But, I mean that, okay, we all love Inara. She's our favorite companion. But what is she? She's a glorified prostitute. She has sex with men for money. If she didn't get any money in return, no matter how 'choosey' she is, then I would see how it doesn't make sense. But she gets paid for it. She's a prostitute. Which, makes the whole money think make sense. Yeah, Jayne would kick his grandmother in the teeth if you paid him enough, and Inara dumped ol' Atherton Wing because he was a jerk, but in the end, money is changing hands. As for the notes about the money. Yeah, Chinese money is more colorful than ours, but for Western minds (and for, I'm almost positive, Joss); green means two things: envy and cashy money.
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I was watching one of the episodes with the commentary (Tim Minear and someone else (sorry, I'm really out of it right now)), and Tim, when talking about Inara specifically mentions about green being equated to emotions (I only happened to flick on the commentary for a few seconds, perfect timing, mind you, so I didn't catch the rest).
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How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don't you think?
A man walks down the street in that hat, people know he's not afraid of anything.
That hat makes you look like an idiot.
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