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Mandatory vaccinations vs. right to choose

POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2006 07:56
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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
This is the case with ALL the studies I have found to date on effectiveness of childhood vaccines. They are ALL sloppy and inconclusive because they refuse to use inert controls.


CTS, are you saying that the medical industrial complex is not to be entirely trusted due to lack of divine intelligence and vision on the part of the researchers and organizers; that they are as fallable as ordinary humans that work at the police department, NASA, or Wal-Mart?
Ummm....

I guess I agree.



All just folk here Chrisisall



Chrisisall, this is more like complaining about them because (to use the police example) they don't know how to load their guns properly.

However, I'm not convinced that what CTS calls "inert" is the same as what a qualified doctor would call inert. There is a certain degree of medical expertise that they have that CTS does not.

"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by freeradical42:






Chrisisall, this is more like complaining about them because (to use the police example) they don't know how to load their guns properly.


Actually I would use the police analogy more like CTS is complaining that some cops don't pursue training with their guns, and aren't as good with them as they should be, due to simple lazyness.

Remember, one third of all professionals are idiots, one third are competant but don't try too hard, and one third are excellent.
I'd rather be skeptical than screwed.


Big guns Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:20 PM

Chris, just remember... one third of all germs are helpful, one-third are neutral and one-third are...

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Chris, just remember... one third of all germs are helpful, one-third are neutral and one-third are...


Signy, don't pull that precise scientific number thing on me...!

...and what are the last third, anyway? Evil? Deadly? Idiot-germs?


Silly British Chrisisall

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RUE
Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:51 AM

...and what are the last third, anyway? Evil? Deadly? Idiot-germs?

Smelly ???

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RUE
Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:02 AM

S'wenyways Chris,isAll,

I definitely think the US medico-politico bureaucracy is not to be trusted, specifically the FDA. But what do you think of the academicians who study medicines and vaccines? Do you think they're in on it like CTS seems to think they are? Or do you think they offer an educated but independent perspective?

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:33 AM

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...and what are the last third, anyway? Evil? Deadly? Idiot-germs?
British. Or maybe Uzbeki. Foreign, anyway. Probably illegal aliens.


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Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
what do you think of the academicians who study medicines and vaccines? Do you think they're in on it like CTS seems to think they are? Or do you think they offer an educated but independent perspective?


I think individually there are fine and truthful and insightful peeps out there, but what info gets out is mostly controlled by the higher-ups, and if the boss you answer to is in the one-third idiot range (And really, you don't get to be a boss because you KNOW how to do something, only because you can demonstrate with numbers from a computer that you can get productivity from individuals or groups), the chances of non-biased and truthful science floating to the surface goes down...

Beaten with the chain of command Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:56 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
British. Or maybe Uzbeki. Foreign, anyway. Probably illegal aliens.





Germy Chrisisall

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RUE
Thursday, November 30, 2006 3:30 AM

Germy ???? Is that code for German ?? Do we have illegal Germans ? Call Fatherland Security at once !

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