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And now, NOT in the news today!

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:36 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
NOT IN THE NEWS !

basic facts

http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2003/12/19/iraq6770.htm
Human Rights Watch estimates that as many as 290,000 people were killed under the rule of Saddam Hussein.

For 24 years, that's roughly 12,000 per year. Or if you include roughly 600,000 dead from sanctions (a middle estimate), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_sanctions and 190,000 deaths from the Iraq/Iran war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Iran_War,
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Hussein's regime was responsible directly or indirectly for 45,000 deaths per year.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006
101001442.html

Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000
Now, if you take the start of the post-Hussein period to be when the US invaded in March 2003 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_invasion,
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the US-led invasion is responsible for a mere 187,000 deaths per year.
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Trivial !




Did you count in the deaths directly caused by the pre-war sanctions ??




" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack

Run to the hills run for your lives "

http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:45 AM

People can say whatever they want to about global warming, all I know is this:

Here in Michigan (as of today), in a state once infamous for it's winters, there are dandelions blooming on the ground. At the end of November.

It gives one pause.

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"So long and goodnight."

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:03 AM

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
People can say whatever they want to about global warming, all I know is this:

Here in Michigan (as of today), in a state once infamous for it's winters, there are dandelions blooming on the ground. At the end of November.


I live in northeastern Pennsylvania. I've seen frost in mid-May, and I've worn shorts in January. It happens from time to time.

Is there global warming? I don't know. There may be, or there may not be. As I'm not informed on the subject enough to venture an opinion, I won't do so. However, if you live long enough, you see things like you mentioned above everywhere.

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RUE
Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:09 AM

Hi GinoB,

Did you count in the deaths directly caused by the pre-war sanctions ??

Yes, I counted pre-war sanctions. I saw so many divergent estimates, I used 600,000 as a middle estimate.
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RUE
Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:16 AM

Cartoon,

WE AGREE !

"a decent percentage of things which made the headlines of yesteryear actually turned out to have no bearing at all in the annuls of history"

And uhm, if I thank you too I hope it makes it twice as good.

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Cartoon,

WE AGREE !


Uh... I'm pretty sure that there's something in the bylaws of the Fireflyfans Forum which strictly prohibits this sort of thing.

As I really have nothing against you, I strongly suggest you go back and -- uh -- delete (edit) that sentence before someone in charge sees it.

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RUE
Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:43 AM

Uhmmm ... well I really hate to break any rules or anything ... but, uhhhhh, it looks like I'm too late. I'm stuck with it now, I guess.

I F Stone was a hero.

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Wednesday, November 29, 2006 2:55 PM

Disappearing ice is all fine and well, but the biggest thing NOT in the news is the Richard Donner Cut of Superman 2 just out. It's spectacular. A must-see for Reeve fans.

Okay, go back to the 'real world' stuff now.....

One track Chrisisall

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Extreme weather: the climate crisis in four charts
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Friday, September 19, 2025 6:24 PM

NASA satellites spot brand-new island in Alaska formed by melting glacier

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