Evidence Jubal Early Survived!

POSTED BY: Fastmover
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 00:16
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FASTMOVER

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 6:53 AM

Hello all, and this is my first post. I've read through a lot of the threads here, and one debate that has been raised is the fate of Jubal Early. I have some insights on that I would like to share.

In the OIS commentary Joss mentions that Early's character was inspired heavily by Boba Fett from Star Wars. As most of you know, Fett fell into the Pit of the Sarlacc in Return of the Jedi, and was presumed killed. Well, for those of you who are also into the Star Wars expanded universe, Fett was actually able to climb out of the pit, and even acquired another ship called Slave II because the other one was impounded by the Rebels.

I'm thinking this could be hint that Early, despite the overwhelming odds against him, somehow survived either by calling his ship back to him or calling for help. Remember that we do not actually see him die, and he seems quite jovial in the end for someone who is about to suffocate in the coldness of space, no matter how whacked he is.

Josh Gray

EVAN

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:05 AM

I think that Boba Fett allusion is kinda neat. But i also have by reasons for believing Jubal survived.
Isn't the classic space drifter thing to do use a remote and pull your ship back to you?
Or maybe it will be like The hitchhikers Guide To the Galaxy and he will be picked up by a ship at the exact moment he was about to die.
Anyway it happens: Jubal didn't die.

Are you having a laugh?

DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:06 AM

I don't think you have to go all of the way over to the Star Wars EU to find evidence of Jubel's survival. The fact that he is alive at the end of OIS is good enough evidence. It's a convention of the space opera genre that the villain always comes back unless you see him die. And sometimes even if you do see him die. Plus he's just too wicked awesome a character to not bring back - and we know how Joss feels about awesome.

David

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FASTMOVER

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 7:10 AM

Good points, and I really hope Rha's Al Ghul in Batman begin survived because we didn't see him die... Anyways, I think that someone like Jubal Early who is so sophisticated and obsessed with his equipment would definitely have some way of calling his ship back to him. I just don't see him risking something that stupid. Sadly we will never get to see his reprisal, especially because he was my favorite villain! :) Does that seem right to you?

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:39 PM

Fastmover, first of all welcome to the board.

Secondly, Jubal Early is alive and well in many a fanfic on the site. If you like the character check out some of the fanfic. You'll find some talented writtings there.

Z

CAUSAL

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:24 PM

"I modelled the character on Boba Fett" isn't the same as "The character is identical to Boba Fett." I, for one, have no problem letting the Blue Hand men, Book, Wash, and Jubal stay good and dead. It makes the world more real to me, in some ways that people die--peope we like--and they stay dead. That's what happens in real life, after all (and before the objections come, yes I know FF isn't real life). It would make FF more cartoon-y and less gritty to have people constantly coming back to life.

On a semi-related note, why do you think that it is that fans feel that they have the right to demand that the creator do certain things with their own work (e.g. the petition not to kill Wash)?

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TPAGE

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:46 PM

I have another reason that Jubal Early is still alive. Joss likes bringing back characters. Hell in 14 episodes we saw almost all of the 'villains' more than once. YoSafBrig, Niska, Badger (well he was less villainy), etc.

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On a semi-related note, why do you think that it is that fans feel that they have the right to demand that the creator do certain things with their own work (e.g. the petition not to kill Wash)?

As for that, people like to have control (and I don't necessarily mean in a bad way). But we cannot have it in reality so many try it in fiction. Truth is we have no control but the choices we make.

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MRBEN

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:57 PM

I'm sure I read/saw somewhere that there is a reflection of Jubal's ship in his visor when we see him at the end of the episode, indicating that it was coming to pick him up.....

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EVILBUNGLE

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:14 PM

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Originally posted by Causal:
[BOn a semi-related note, why do you think that it is that fans feel that they have the right to demand that the creator do certain things with their own work (e.g. the petition not to kill Wash)?

if I can start with a shock admission, I am not an award winning writer and my screenplays are nonexistant, but to speak without any authority at all, I would imagine it would be a compliment of sorts, if no one cared about your work they wouldn't try, I have written a book and as I am the only person to have read it I can do what I like. when people buy into it you are saying, here is my work for you to enjoy, you can not then turn around and say don't enjoy it too much!

ofcause whatever the fans say he has the right to ignore them, he will always be incontrol but the fans deserve a voice too, no fans = no point story telling.

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CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 4:11 PM

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Originally posted by Fastmover:
I really hope Rha's Al Ghul in Batman begin survived because we didn't see him die...

He's Ra's Al Ghul. His whole gimmick is that he's immortal (and has been around since before Biblical times --only person older is Vandal Savage [a Neanderthal who was around before humans evolved]). Talia (or someone) will just gather up his remains and head for the nearest Lazarus Pit.

In fact Talia would make a convenient source of sexual tension in the next movie, since Katie is not involved and Batman, like Bond, needs a babe in every movie. At least the Talia/Bruce sparkage would be canonical (and save us from having to introduce Catwoman until the third movie).

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