Are we all imprisoned w/in the USA?
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 14:25
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Another brick in the wall...
U.S. Seeks Silence on CIA Prisons
Court Is Asked to Bar Detainees From Talking About Interrogations
The Bush administration has told a federal judge that terrorism suspects held in secret CIA prisons should not be allowed to reveal details of the "alternative interrogation methods" that their captors used to get them to talk... even to the detainees' own attorneys
The government says in new court filings that those interrogation methods are now among the nation's most sensitive national security secrets and that their release ... "could reasonably be expected to cause extremely grave damage."
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It sure is embarassing when you get caught doing something illegal, isn't it?
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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I'm just bumping this depressing thread.
As to what do I want the democrats to do - make the crap unambiguously illegal under ANY pretext.
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Rue, their right first the war on drunk drivers then smokers who does it hurt the Waffle House. I am always on the losing side.
I like smacken em.
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Interesting that so many people give total credence to an anonymous article which provides only a non-working link as support.
Having used Razza's link to actually read the proposal, I can't see that it does much more than require passenger manifests prior to departure, rather than 15 minutes after.
I would also suspect that the government has had the legal authority to stop people, even citizens, from entering or leaving the country long before now.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Hey, I didn't see ppl give "total credence" to the post since (1) it was a question not an answer and (2) Razza actually looked it up.
Interesting that so many people give total credence to an anonymous article which provides only a non-working link as support.
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VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Here's what happens to US citizens who forget their national passport in USA this week, electroshock, torture and attempted murder, for the crime of READING IN A PUBLIC LIBRARY:
www.irandokht.com
www.irandokht.com/forum/forumarticles.php?forumID=6§ionID=265
That's why schools are now banning cellphone cameras, so the slaves won't have evidence of Police State Death Squads. Note that copsters only get TASERED for 5 seconds, one time only, and can't walk for 30 seconds. But Death Squads usually perp repeated and continuous electroshock tortures that cause broken bones and 100s of deaths. What if... concerned citizens TAZED these copsters, and the college chancellor... Just a thought. Anybody can buy a TAZER...
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"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?"
-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Prize winner, Gulag Archipelago (his latest book is 100% censored in the English language and in USA, for blaming genocidal Communism on the Khazarian "Jewish" Communists)
www.rense.com/general66/gulag.htm
www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=99868176
I was coaching a homeless guy on how to win in Traffic Court. We met at Univeristy of Tennessee Law Library, to discuss strategy and do legal research. University libraries are PUBLIC libraries, open to all US citizens and lawful aliens, because they are public depositories of government records, such as the current encyclopedias of statutes, codes and laws. The UT private security guards are NOT "law enforcement officers", since they are not govt employees, tho they like to pretend that they are. The UT "police" (security guards) illegally forced my student to leave the public library. I told him to go meet the dean of the law library. The dean told him he had a legal right to use the public library, so we had no further problem. He won his trial pro se, on 2 traffic tickets, setting legal precedent. Even tho the city judge found him liable for alleged breach of civil driver license contract, his Affidavit of Indigency and use of Homestead Exemption meant he did NOT have to pay the fines nor pay the court costs. Perhaps 60% of all US citizens never have to pay traffic tickets nor parking tickets, especially impoverished students, due to their Homestead Exemptions, which include million dollar homes in Florida.
Even tho you'll need your national passport to walk to the grocery store in your home town, you can always walk across the undefended border, 95% of which has no barrier of any kind.
Just carry your firearms for protection from the Mexican slave traders and drug runners who murder 100s of illegal aliens every year in USA.
Even the so-called "fence" can be climbed over, or under.
www.amazon.com/Minutemen-Battle-Secure-Americas-Borders/dp/0977898415
JUST SAY NO TO NATIONAL ID CARDS AND VOLUNTARY DRIVER LICENSE CONTRACTS. ALL YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO IS VERBALLY TELL YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO THE NICE POLICE STATE DEATH SQUAD, ACCORDING TO US SUPREME COURT.
www.DealsGapDragon.com
AUDIO MP3 DOWNLOAD: Hidden Taperecording of Tennessee Copsters Torturing US Citizen to Sign a "Voluntary Consent" Contract Form
http://wms.scripps.com/knoxville/siler/siler.mp3
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/9797.php
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey, I didn't see ppl give "total credence" to the post...
Really?
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Originally posted by Gladiator32:
That's shocking news, but somehow, I can see all western countries going this way. Goverments love to use terrorism etc. as an excuse for oppression and control...
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I like being a prisoner. Prisoners are safe.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think I called this one a long time ago, USA is becoming USSR. Not being able to leave is the first and most essential part of that plan. But thanks for the heads up.
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Originally posted by rue:
I can see it now - if you want to leave the US you MUST be a disaffected person, therefore you cannot travel !
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
This is no doubt welcome news for 'coyotes'. Now they can make profitable runs in both directions.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Hmmm, well IMHO Chrisisall, Rue, and SargeX were joking and Glad32 and DT responded seriously.
You said you read the rule change and it does a lot fo things BESIDES set back the passenger manifest to 15-60 minutes before departure (and changes the definition of departure from "wheels up" to "push back" from the gate). I caught some things in the rule change but I'm interested in your take on it. What did you see?
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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I'm in the Geezer camp. It seems to be a whole lotta nothing. More to do with manifests than being a prisoner(IMHO). This proposal actually makes sense...Won't effect me at all, but keep on huffing and puffing...
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the problem is Kaneman that if you and Geezer ever actually recognize the threat from our government, it will be too late.. since the whole time you were in lock step with the washington satanists who want war, want torture and want the last of your civil liberties to protect THEIR status quo.
id rather defend the weak than the strong anyday.. especially when the strong are making billions hand over fist committing genocide and subjugating the poor and middle classes
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