Theory that Book worked for Blue Sun and is Following River
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Quote:It was a federal agent following River in "Serenity." Jubal Early is the bounty hunter.
Originally posted by palehorse:
"Serenity"- bounty hunter
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
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Originally posted by Adeptus:
Never said that Book was just a regular preacher.
I didn't mean to put words in your mouth.
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While you do have a point, you basically have to make unsupported assumptions to fit your presuppositions in order to arrive at this conclusion. Wouldn't exactly hold up in a court of law, a philosophical debate, or a logical argument.
I'm not speaking in any of those things. If you don't find my thoughts valid, feel free to ignore them.
I did warn you that I didn't have a logical debate or solid evidence.
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Originally posted by Adeptus:Quote:It was a federal agent following River in "Serenity." Jubal Early is the bounty hunter.
Originally posted by palehorse:
"Serenity"- bounty hunter
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
No, I believe that it is made pretty clear that he is posing as a Fed in order to use fear of the Aliance to control the situation a bit(keep himself alive)
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Quote:What gives you that impression?
No, I believe that it is made pretty clear that he is posing as a Fed in order to use fear of the Aliance to control the situation a bit(keep himself alive)
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
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-The offer to cut Jayne in on the bounty for River and Simon.
-The "superior" interogation resisance technique
-The fact that he did not arrest the Tams on world
-Do we see an ident card?
I just think that these all point to his lying.
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Well, if he was a bounty hunter, he was certainly the worst bounty hunter in the 'verse. Heh.
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
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My theory:
Book WAS an Alliance deep cover ops guy who did a lot of nasty things and knows both sides of the law. We all know the monastery doesn't need that much rabbit stew, ya'll.
But that doesn't change the fact that he genuinely IS a Shepherd. We see him reading the Bible and studying when he is by himself when there is no need for the pretense. He does have faith- his actions show it.
It's all about redemption. He did horrible things, saw horrible things, and reached outside of himself for faith. Redemption is possible, and he attained it through Christianity. That's why he's so scared at first- he's afraid going back to the old life will make him lose what he no doubt had to work so hard to find- or rather, to accept.
Plus, River doesn't see him as false. She sees the 'half a hump' thing, sure- that's just evidence of his dark past- but if he really were false, she'd know it.
As for getting along with Jayne: There's some good in Mrs. Cobb's baby boy. He's a pain in the ass, but he's got good in him, too. I see Book really trying to cultivate that, to be open to him to show him that there's more to life. After all, Jesus picked some pretty rough characters to be His friends, too.
"Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. Not as the world gives, give I unto you. Do not let your hearts be troubled, and do not be afraid." John 14:27
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Originally posted by Duey:
My theory:
Book WAS an Alliance deep cover ops guy who did a lot of nasty things and knows both sides of the law. We all know the monastery doesn't need that much rabbit stew, ya'll.
Palehorse: Or he was an Alliance officer(see thread "was Book at Serenity Valey"
But that doesn't change the fact that he genuinely IS a Shepherd. We see him reading the Bible and studying when he is by himself when there is no need for the pretense. He does have faith- his actions show it.
Palehorse: Even regular people who hold to the many branches of the Judeo-Christian tree of faiths will study the Bible.
It's all about redemption. He did horrible things, saw horrible things, and reached outside of himself for faith. Redemption is possible, and he attained it through Christianity. That's why he's so scared at first- he's afraid going back to the old life will make him lose what he no doubt had to work so hard to find- or rather, to accept.
Palehorse: I'm thinking that he has made peace with himself and has found forgiveness in the calling, but still has to atone for his actions.
It is possible that the fear inside of him is actually of the process of reparation(meeting, and growing to understand and accept the feelings of a ship's captain so affected by the war that he named his ship Serenity)
Plus, River doesn't see him as false. She sees the 'half a hump' thing, sure- that's just evidence of his dark past- but if he really were false, she'd know it.
As for getting along with Jayne: There's some good in Mrs. Cobb's baby boy. He's a pain in the ass, but he's got good in him, too. I see Book really trying to cultivate that, to be open to him to show him that there's more to life. After all, Jesus picked some pretty rough characters to be His friends, too.
Palehorse: One of the basic behaviors of human beings in a new social situation is to find the person you can most closely identify with. Having been most likely business like in his past violence, Book sees Jayne as a familiar soul.
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I think Book was an Alliance assassin BEFORE the war even broke out. He's considerably older than the others, remember.
I think he really is a Shepard now and has been in the monestary long enough to have earned those stripes.
It tracks that, having had to do some heinous act, his conscience stabbed him and he went into the monestary to find his soul again.
I think that he may have had foreknowledge of the project that River ultimately became part of but not have been an actual participant.
Since boarding SERENITY Book hasn't killed anyone, despite plenty of reason and opportunity. He's certianly capable of it. Indeed he's always one of those who lobbies against it. He seems to REALLY beleive in whatever version of whatever Bible it is that he's carrying around.
A truly evil person cannot sustain the fiction of goodness in such close quarters for any real length of time. When your O2 is running out, you revert to type.
Book ran straight to his Bible (though his Faith seemed a bit shakey in OUT OF GAS).
Each of Serenity's passengers carries secrets from their pasts but, so far, all those secrets seem to be extremely personal (as opposed to political or intellectual).
Book's a man with an evil past trying to make ammends.
IMO.
The Price of Knowledge is Knowing.
Audrid Dax
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Going back to the old Early comment in OiS, "that's no shepherd". Some have suggested that this was surmised from observation, but Early's done his research. He clearly knows all about EVERYONE on board, and how to push their buttons. He made damn sure (like with Mal), that Book wasn't going to have much of a chance to fight back.
Now I believe that he is a man of faith, maybe even a shepherd (at least officially) and possibly "doing penance" for something, but as others have pointed out, he's quite up-to-date on what's happening in the contemporary world, and his skills are certainly not rusty! I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him still being in active service (although definitely with a long history), such as undercover, but at the same time he could be in need of a low profile for some reason, and I'm largely convinced that he's not "tracking" River, or any of the Serenity crew.
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