Reps Cheated again Voter fraud just didn't work this time

POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Friday, November 17, 2006 19:55
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Razza,

"A campaign of "massive" fraud should produce at least one credible criminal investigation, why hasn't it?"

Who would order the investigation? Then please explain to me in detail HOW criminal charges are filed without an investigation or grand jury.

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Just to drive the point home- HERO has not come up with a single argument why we should NOT clean up our election process as much as possible.

So I'm going to presume that HERO AGREES that we need to clean up our election process.


Right HERO?

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Also, to carry Rue's point further: It is unlikely that the Federal DOJ will conduct any investigations on the 2004 election because even tho Congress has changed hands the DOJ is still headed by a Bush appointee approved by the GOP-Senate. However, the FBI IS conducting investigations on this past election partly because of the stink raised by respected professors and officials about the 2004 election so the fuss was not entirely wasted. I think the left-wing blogosphere should be congratulated for keeping the issue alive and shining a bright light on the problems.

Also, since many governorships just changed hands to Democratic you may now see some STATE investigations going forward. I don't know what the statute of limitations is on election fraud.

One more comment: Rue, you had posted a very discouraging article about the effectiveness of negative campaigning. Even tho I'd like to think of myself as resistant to suggestion, I've felt the effects of negative campaigning even on candidates that I strongly support! Since I can't find that post I'm ging to reply here:

Maybe the answer is to require that partisan groups the support an candidate can only advertize about their candidate, not about anyone else. Wouldn't THAT twist everyones' panties??? heh heh heh

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Elsewhere, the results (even in "red" states like Utah and Colorado) were within 1% or so. But in some states the results were off by a an unheard-of 6-8%. That is the basis for the statistical analysis which was done by well-respected professors from all over the country. And basically they said it was statistically impossible.

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Its not impossible cause its happening. Now we just have to figure out why...evil conspiracy or inaccurate polling.

Having a higher degree of error in blue states is understandable. Red states don't attach the same social stigma to voting Republican. People are less afraid to express their opinions and so on.

I also note for the record that the election process in blue states and blue districts of red states is most often almost always entirely controlled by Democrats. If there is fraud, its fraud of their own making, such as absentee ballots and such.

I also note for the record that I have voted in every election every year since I turned 21...and I have never, ever seen or know anyone who has seen an exit pollster. I asked around. All the folk I've talked to agree that they have never seen one themeselves or know anyone whose been polled and that they, Republicans, would not answer if asked because its nobody's business who they voted for. Perhaps all the pollers are all hanging out at the wrong polling places.

H

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Meanwhile, Hero is very quiet.

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Yeah, Hero cuts out early from his govt. job to drive his new car home to his new house where his hot girlfriend is waiting.

Lucky fella, he is.

H

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Just to drive the point home- HERO has not come up with a single argument why we should NOT clean up our election process as much as possible.

So I'm going to presume that HERO AGREES that we need to clean up our election process.


Right HERO?

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Yes. We should start with requiring a valid ID to vote and require that persons pick up absentee ballots in person and with a valid ID.

There should be strict fines for things like registering dead folk and fines for the election officials if dead or otherwise inelidgable folk are allowed to vote and jail if such fraud leads to the wrong person winning.

Then they should move my polling place cause its really hard to get to and the parking sucks. And more bake sale goods. Its not fair that the early voters get the pumpkin bread and peanutbutter cookies and I get stuck with a dried up brownie. Then we can move on to campaign finance reform. Since we can't dictate what people can donate, we should dictate what people can spend. Make it an ethics rule for the House for example for a member or incoming member to spend in excess of $X, if its an ethical rule, the Court can't review it. And then there's the whole voting on Tuesday thing...

H

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Originally posted by rue:
Razza - these are quotes from your posts. Please explain to me how they are part of the topic.

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"Wow, I thought conservatives were supposed to be the wacko conpiracy theorists."

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As I understand your arguement, it is your belief that there is a conservative cabal lead by the Republican party which controls every level of law enforcement across the entire country which is unwilling to investigate and prosecute possible election fraud. Stated another way, there is not one liberal democrat in a position of authority in a law enforcement position at the federal, state, county, or city level in the entire country capable of investigating or prosecuting possible election fraud.

If my understanding of your arguement is correct, then, as I stated in my previous post, that sounds a great deal like a wacko conspiracy theory. If I misunderstand your arguement, then I humbly apologize and hope to understand it better.

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Originally posted by Rue:
And then you wrote this -

"What personal attacks? Didn't take you long to start your ad-hominem attack defense I see ..."

Indeed.

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Yes I did say that because I have noticed that you are incapable of carrying on a conversation without claiming to be the victim of an ad hominem attack.

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