John Kerry Belittles U.S. Troops?
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UPDATED: Monday, November 6, 2006 04:25
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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
Why not? Rush stood by his remarks, but apologized for those who mistook what he said.
Did people "mistake" Rush's on-camera twitching mockery of Fox?
And Rush's appology was left-handed and hollow, at best.
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Originally posted by Eric:
Nice try conservatards. What he's saying is that if you're uneducated and not independently wealthy your options are severely limited, and you're much more likely to end up fighting a rich man's war.
If that is what he was trying to say then he should have said that. AH but alas he did not say that.
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Originally posted by Eric:
Nice try conservatards. What he's saying is that if you're uneducated and not independently wealthy your options are severely limited, and you're much more likely to end up fighting a rich man's war.
If that is what he was trying to say then he should have said that. AH but alas he did not say that.
Now, come on, expecting Kerry to say anything simply is just unreasonable.
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Thanks for the link, dreamtrove. First I'd heard of that. If the predator had killed who they set out to, I'm sure we would've seen wall-to-wall media coverage.
While I'm here I might as well throw my two cents around (based on a what I've seen and read). I'll do it a la Rumsfeld.
Did John Kerry make a bonehead statement? Sure.
Did he say what he meant to say? No.
Has he apologized? Yes.
Seems pretty simple to me. I have found the side discussion about the demographic make-up of our armed forces informative. And I do find it funny that many strong Bush partisans we haven't seen in a while came out of the woodwork for this thread. No wonder the Republican party has no trouble winning elections if this is all it takes to fire up your base.
When they write up the 2006 elections, one of the weakest showings will be Angelides running for governor. How crappy a candidate do you have to be to be so far behind in a solidly blue state against a Republican governor? And then, on top of all that, John Kerry makes a gaffe in a speech supporting you. Talk about unlucky.
And it's nice to see PCC in the news. I took classes there during the summers of my undergraduate career when I was back home. Although, at the time, it felt like high school with ashtrays.
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Originally posted by Eric:
Nice try conservatards. What he's saying is that if you're uneducated and not independently wealthy your options are severely limited, and you're much more likely to end up fighting a rich man's war.
If that is what he was trying to say then he should have said that. AH but alas he did not say that.
~~River: Bible's broken.~~
And Bush said he was constantly looking for ways to harm Americans.
The "Let's take things literally" game can be played both ways.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Some people have noted that political aids usually distribute the transcript of a speech before the actual address - or immediately afterwards. This helps the reporters so they aren't forced to take shorthand of the speech - they can focus more closely on supporter/opposition reactions to the speech - thus dispatching copy to the editors desk in a timely fashion.
There is some buzz that the Kerry transcript was released the next day and the text of the speech may have been sanitized.
Who knows.
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The "Let's take things literally" game can be played both ways.
I agree but I am not trying to change what Kerry said I just take it as is. Truth is I would been easier on Kerry if instead of standing on his soap box he just said he was sorry for any misunderstanding and for any feeling he may have hurt. Instead he blamed everyone else. Way to step up!
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that his message was that there was disproportionate weight we shift to our soldiers for little reward, and how their lives are at stake for our governments missteps.Quote:
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Well thats a true statement, foot soldiers bear the burden of all wars. 3000 men drown during a training exercise for the D day invasion of Normandy. General Patton warned Eisenhower and Bradley about the weakness along the military lines near the Ardennes - they ignored him and look at the result - 81,000 American casualties, including 23,554 captured and 19,000 killed. American foot soldiers got slaughtered or literally froze to death from lack of winter woollen clothing - which the quartermaster had in storehouses in Washington DC.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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I took no 'beating' on the MJ Fox thread. But keep thinking that, if it helps ya sleep better at night.
You took no "beating" because as soon as your parroted talking points were shot down, you took your usual cowards-way-out, and dissapeared from the thread.
Classic AURaptor SOP.
You took no beating 'cause you ran.
Ran ? How many damn times must I explain the same damn thing over and over again before brick head Dims can finally understand a simple point? I guess the number is more than 3 or 4, huh? I can only destroy someone's arguemnt so many times before the thrill is gone. My points were my own, so who else did you see/ hear 'parroting' them?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Well yeah, Kerry was being dumb, and Limbo was being malicious.
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What amazes me is the need for some folks to try to equate everything as being exactly equal. Kerry's comments = Rush's comments. Sorry, but the 2 are light years apart.
You're right; they are different.
We agree, how weird is that?
No, Kerry was being malicious and dumb while Limbaugh was just spot on right.
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I took no 'beating' on the MJ Fox thread.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one, always ready with the funny you are!
Who's laughing now Chrisisall
Anything to add some joy in a fellow Browncoats life.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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