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POSTED BY: Static
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Sunday, February 8, 2004 3:00 PM

You guys are gonna hate me for this, but. . .

WHERE IS THE LAUNDRY ROOM?

We knoooooooooooooooooooow they do laundry, because in "Shindig" when the fellas are playing cards around the table, they're not betting with money, they're betting with chores, and laundry is clearly mentioned. In fact, I think the three chores are 'laundry', 'dishes' and 'garbage'. We could say, "Oh. . .well. . .they don't do laundry ON THE SHIP, they just wait until they land somewhere like Persephone and then hit the local "Suds and Duds", and whomever's 'turn' it is, has to pay for it."

NAY, I say! Because they're sometimes in space for a couple of weeks at a time, and there's no guarantee that where they DO land, they'll have time to DO laundry before Jayne or Mal start a fight and they have to go running back to the ship to escape. . .leaving their laundry behind, or at least having to slog an armload of wet clothing while running, which, is not fun to do when being chased by Alliance feds, the Blue Hand Group or Niska's goons. (Don't ask how I know this, just trust me.)

SO. . .wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's the laundry room?

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 4:31 PM

Not sure, but the area immediately to the left as entering the galley/mess area throught eh forward hatch seems to be unoccupied. Given the design philosphy of Serenity as demonstrated by the commode in the crew quarters the washer/dryer could easily be concealed in a wall.

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 5:21 PM

Heh, the dishawasher is probably a combo unit - clothes & dishes, just can't do both at the same time.

If the doing laundry wasn't a chore to be done, I would have thought that each dorm room would have one those 'clothes cleaning closets' that I have seen at Best Buy.

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 7:05 PM


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Sorry for the sideband chatter. But IRT laundry room. Couple of weeks is nothing. Military folks - that would be most everyone onboard the Serenity are used to sitting in the same 2 or 3 sets of clothes for about a month at a time. After a while, fresh clothes just don't feel right. Besides doing all that laundry is a big waste on fresh water. I wouldn't really be surprised if they didn't have a laundry.

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 7:17 PM

You know. . .

I'm military and in Afghanistan, and I can tell you that we will wear the same clothes if we HAVE to, but we sure as hell don't WANT to. If they're 'home', which is on the ship, I figure they'd want to have clean clothes.

I've noticed that Simon, River, Jayne and Inara have the most diverse wardrobes in the show. . .Jayne with his variety of T-Shirts, and even the one nice button-down shirt he has in HoG.

Kaylee and Wash. . .well. . .I'm living proof that one can NEVER have enough sets of identical flight suits (or coveralls in Kaylee's case). They could have two dozen EACH. Wash DOES, however have a collection of hawaiian shirts that I envy.

Mal and Zoe. . .well. . .let's just say I bet that damn burgundy shirt of Mal's could go to a sword fight by itself, and Zoe's costume seems to be the same from episode to episode as well.

Book. . .well. . .I know several priests. Same argument as Wash. . .only replace 'red flight suit' with 'grey collared shirt' . . .sometimes short-sleeved, sometimes long.

The only reason I brought up the laundry issue is because it apparently is a chore that is prevalent enough that they would use 'who's turn is it to do laundry' as gambling markers in a card game.

Oh yeah. . .and I'm betting by 500 years in the future, there's either an alternative shower/laundry method to hot water (sonics or something, maybe?) OR there's a darn good water purification/recycling rig on space ships.

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 7:37 PM

Do you really need to have a dedicated laundry room to do laundry? Anywhere with a reasonably large sink would do (the bathroom near the passenger dorm?)...heck, if you had a big bucket/tub, you just need a faucet.

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 7:42 PM

You know. . .such a scene would have a sort of 'poetry' to it, actually. Five centuries into the future, lasers, hovercraft, space ships, but the crew of Serenity do just fine washing their laundry in a huge tub of water. . .HEY. . .then they hang it up in the hottest room on the ship, the engine room, to dry!

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 7:55 PM

I've been doing deck and floorplans for Serenity for a while now, and there are a lot of areas of the boat that aren't shown in the show.

1. There are two doors at the aft end of the side gangplanks in the cargo bay. We never see where they lead.

2. In the fore hall, there's a door on the bottom port side of the stairs to the bridge which is never opened.

3. There's a door to port of the main bridge door in the bridge that is never opened. It corresponds with the door mentioned in #2 above, and my theory is that they connect (OMR's mention of Saffron fusing both entrances to the bridge) via a shaft which leads to an airlock under the bridge (and possibly to the area mentioned in #5 below).

4. There are two doors on the port side of the galley, on either side of the shelves in the middle of that wall. They might lead to an airlock--perhaps the anomalous hatch that Jayne and Kaylee use to get to the roof in Trash.

5. The area reached by the stairs between the two consoles on the bridge is never shown.

6. There is a corridor that leads around the back of the infirmary. It leads starboard from the entrance to the passender dorm from the cargo bay, and it connects to the passenger lounge just aft of the ladder that leads up to the hall between the engine room and the galley.

7. We're never actually shown what's behind the door in the port wall of the passenger lounge. It's heavily implied by Book's towel, etc. in OiS that it leads to the bathroom.

8. There are ladders leading up at the very end of both of the corridors in the passenger dorm. We're never shown where they lead, and they don't seem to connect to the engine room-galley corridor. Note also that the floor of these two corridors curves up at the end, implying that they're near the skin of Serenity's aft bulb.

The short hall off the starboard wall of the galley seems to simply join with the stairs leading down to the cargo bay. There's certainly not much room in that area for anything else.

And that leads me to the biggest problems I've encountered in the effort. Serenity's exterior doesn't match her interior.

Using the wonderful pictures of Serenity from this site's features section, I've attempted to draw up some deck plans. Unfortunately, the bridge is too high compared to the galley, so the fore hallway winds up having to run uphill--which it obviously does not do in the show.

Likewise, the engine room, which is clearly meant to sit in the center of the rear bulb (Look at the dimples on the rear-most circle on the aft view. They match exactly the chrome bulbs that run around the curved ceiling at the aft of the engine room, as well as the main engine itself.), must be much lower than the galley. This requires the aft hall to run downhill, which, again, does not match what's on screen in the show.

And, no, the stairs in the fore hall and the engine room can't account for the difference in height. Using the position of the shuttles as an indicator of the height of the doors leading to them from the cargo bay dictates that the engine room is about a full storey lower than the galley. Lowering the galley a little is possible, but this just increases the relative height of the bridge.

One can get a sense of the scale of the interior from the fore hall and the galley, BTW. The ceiling of the fore hall matches the curve of the top of Serenity's neck. And, note that Mal's room has a curved floor at the end furthest from the ladder, indicating that it's quite near the skin of the ship.

We know the galley is very tall, and that the windows on the top of Serenity's transept (yes, I think Serenity's very church-like) are the windows we see from the exterior. The aft octagonal window is obviously meant to match the galley lounge. However, working purely from the exterior leads to a lounge which is much too small, and a galley which is too long and skinny if you try to match its scale with the erroneouse lounge and the fore windows.

Hmmm... I'm rambling now, and I could go on

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Sunday, February 8, 2004 11:47 PM


"Aviators" (I meant that as a friendly intra-service rivalry, not an anti-war Army-scum deal), figures... I meant grunts, which the shows characters were supposedly, then again maybe they were aviators or squids too.

Well... at least you are a fixed wing puke (I think)... hehe

Not all of the military have the same luxuries... most grunts just recently have the luxury of a somewhat realistic menu for their MREs. and Realistic in the sense of compared to dog biscuits. Having clean clothes, a hot meal, and shower is definitely a luxury for most grunts.



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Originally posted by Static:
You know. . .

I'm military and in Afghanistan, and I can tell you that we will wear the same clothes if we HAVE to, but we sure as hell don't WANT to. If they're 'home', which is on the ship, I figure they'd want to have clean clothes.

I've noticed that Simon, River, Jayne and Inara have the most diverse wardrobes in the show. . .Jayne with his variety of T-Shirts, and even the one nice button-down shirt he has in HoG.

Kaylee and Wash. . .well. . .I'm living proof that one can NEVER have enough sets of identical flight suits (or coveralls in Kaylee's case). They could have two dozen EACH. Wash DOES, however have a collection of hawaiian shirts that I envy.

Mal and Zoe. . .well. . .let's just say I bet that damn burgundy shirt of Mal's could go to a sword fight by itself, and Zoe's costume seems to be the same from episode to episode as well.

Book. . .well. . .I know several priests. Same argument as Wash. . .only replace 'red flight suit' with 'grey collared shirt' . . .sometimes short-sleeved, sometimes long.

The only reason I brought up the laundry issue is because it apparently is a chore that is prevalent enough that they would use 'who's turn is it to do laundry' as gambling markers in a card game.

Oh yeah. . .and I'm betting by 500 years in the future, there's either an alternative shower/laundry method to hot water (sonics or something, maybe?) OR there's a darn good water purification/recycling rig on space ships.

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Monday, February 9, 2004 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

"Aviators"



Oh. . .oh yeah? (we're not very good with quick retorts)

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Well... at least you are a fixed wing puke (I think)... hehe


Nope. . .I'm a rotary puke. I drive an Apache Helicopter.

But thanks for putting me in my place. *grin*

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