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John Kerry Belittles U.S. Troops?

POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Monday, November 6, 2006 04:25
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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:48 PM

You're just taking his words out of context, if you haven't heard every word he's ever said you can't possibly understand what he means.

What, someone had to say it.

Rush, you pussy, you said what you said, time to appologiseheh heh heh...



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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:58 PM

Nice try conservatards. What he's saying is that if you're uneducated and not independently wealthy your options are severely limited, and you're much more likely to end up fighting a rich man's war.

WHICH IS FUCKING TRUE.

Military recruiters consistently target children who are poor and not college-bound because they are more likely to join up. That is not a secret. Joining the military should be through free choice, not economic or educational coersion, but that just isn't the reality of it.

Do you really want your freedom to spout ignorant right wing bullshit to be defended by people who simply don't have anything better lined up?

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:07 AM

A Democratic congressman has apparently told ABC News: "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=2619383

Anyway, Kerry's comments were of course the result of a Karl Rove stunt. Rove must have implanted a mind control device in Kerry's head to make him insult the troops and then have a hissy-fit after John McCain callout him out on it. Damn that Rove.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Skywalken:
At a campaign rally yesterday, the presidential candidate of the Democratic Party in 2004 said this: "You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Here's the video:

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First of all, I can tell nothing by that few second sound bite. I would like to hear the entire speech.

As for belittling the servicemen and women. It is a fact that the military is peopled in the majority by poor and/or minority men and women who often do not have the option for anything else. I think it tells a sad truth. Have money and/or opportunity - do well in America, don't and get blown up in Iraq.


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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:12 AM

Rue:

I can't find the entire transcript either, but you can see the video at CNN.com, though not the entire speech (damn it!).

Kerry and his staff are saying it was a botched reference in a prepared speech that was supposed to be a veiled insult at Bush. He was appearantly supposed to say,"..."I can't overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq." It didn't come out that way, however.

Possibly a freudian slip? But then, since Bush made better grades than Kerry, perhaps he shouldn't be pointing fingers.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:26 AM

And the funny thing is, Kerry is a highly educated person who joined the military. He should know better! He's an example!

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:29 AM

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You're just taking his words out of context, if you haven't heard every word he's ever said you can't possibly understand what he means. What, someone had to say it.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! The Limbaugh defense. Thanks Citizen for pointing out the right-wing double standard. Always ready to crucify the left, always ready to forgive the right.


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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:30 AM

For those of you who are interested in learning more about the actual demographic makeup of the US Military, here is a link to a population report published by the Population Reference Bureau ( www.prb.org). The latest information is a few years old, but it's a pretty comprehensive report and interesting to look at.

http://www.prb.org/pdf04/59.4AmericanMilitary.pdf

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by Razza:
For those of you who are interested in learning more about the actual demographic makeup of the US Military, here is a link to a population report published by the Population Reference Bureau ( www.prb.org). The latest information is a few years old, but it's a pretty comprehensive report and interesting to look at.

http://www.prb.org/pdf04/59.4AmericanMilitary.pdf




Well, that didn't take long. Page 9:

"Enlistment is also predicted by parents’
education (children of collegeeducated
parents are less likely to
serve), high school grades (those with
higher grades are less likely to serve),
college plans (college students are less
likely to enlist), race and ethnicity
(African Americans and Hispanics are
more likely to serve than whites), and
attractiveness of military work roles."

Wow, Kerry is such a pussy coward bastard! He actually said....something true.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Eric:
Nice try conservatards. What he's saying is that if you're uneducated and not independently wealthy your options are severely limited, and you're much more likely to end up fighting a rich man's war.

WHICH IS FUCKING TRUE.

Military recruiters consistently target children who are poor and not college-bound because they are more likely to join up. That is not a secret. Joining the military should be through free choice, not economic or educational coersion, but that just isn't the reality of it.

Do you really want your freedom to spout ignorant right wing bullshit to be defended by people who simply don't have anything better lined up?



It's not true, and I know it, as I bet you know it too. Kerry said EXACTLY what he meant, and it's coming back to bite him. There is no draft today. There is no 'need' to join the military for those who don't wish to. We have a 100% volunteer military. A college education is by no means a ticket to a life of ease and leisure ( like John Kerry has ).

Per what Kerry actually said, it's clear who he was talking to ( college students ) and what his message was. Stay in school, study hard and get smart, or you'll be shipped to Iraq. He's so full of himself and thinks so highly of his own personal life experiece that he's convinced himself we're back in the 1960's and this is Viet Nam all over again.

It isn't. Kerry is delusional and a complete asshole.


It's funny as hell to see the Dimwads try to spin this, but no one is buying it. John McCain has called for an apology from Kerry to the troops, as has President Bush.

This is just the beginning. It's going to get much worse. For Kerry.

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