Stem-Cells, degenerate Gay Lesbo rights, Abortion, Janet Jackson's boob..what's the problem ??
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Quote:For god sakes, the president didn’t just blossom out of a bud into the Oval Office. He was elected there by a majority of US states, but long before that he had to become qualified to become a candidate for the presidency. Whether you like it or not, the president has earned an enormous amount of respect before he ever got to the Office, as have most presidents. Now you seem to define respect based on whether someone agrees with you, but that’s not what it means. Just because the president doesn’t say or do what you think he should doesn’t mean he isn’t worthy of respect. And frankly, I’m sick of people dragging politics down into the mud because they can’t get what they want, which is precisely what you do. It’s possible to respect the president or a congressman or even an individual on this board, even if you don’t agree with them, but if you can’t respect the presidency then I’m not interested in your criticism of him. Criticism without due respect is just mudslinging.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
No one deserves any respect. Respect is earned. There are too many apologists for the president's meaningless and endlessly corrupt positions.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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"if the pregnancy is terminated early in the first trimester, the fetus hasn't had time to develop into little more than a tadpole"
Shit, do we not shut down logging operations in the north west for less than this? You can't have it both ways. When we start deciding that a frog's tadpoles or a barn owls eggs are important, but human "tadpoles" are not, we are in big trouble as a species....Read what I just wrote...again....again...once more.......
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Kaneman, you are obviously missing my point. It's not about the human fetus, or frogs or owls, it's about CHOICE, once that choice is taken out of the American public's hands where does all of our freedom go?
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"American people are supposed to tell the President what THEY want him to do, not have him tell THEM what to do! (that's usually how democracy works, the government is "By the people, For the people."
Fine. Put it on a national referendum. Lets debate abortion(not just the feminist[I hate that word, they are a minority amongst women] propaganda), what is life, and the procedure. Then lets watch the same people that say we can kill unborn children... turn around and tell us a highway can't be built because it may disturb the mating habits of Liberian fire ants. What a joke...Really
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Quote:Or maybe we can watch all those fine moral people who protect the babies that aren't really babies turn around and murder hundreds of thousands in wars for personal gain...
Originally posted by kaneman:
Fine. Put it on a national referendum. Lets debate abortion(not just the feminist[I hate that word, they are a minority amongst women] propaganda), what is life, and the procedure. Then lets watch the same people that say we can kill unborn children... turn around and tell us a highway can't be built because it may disturb the mating habits of Liberian fire ants. What a joke...Really
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Nonsense.
Respect is what you get for showing competence. Winning a popularity contest didn't earn respect from me as a teen and it doesn't do it in govt.
Whether you like it or not, the president has earned no respect
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Now you seem to define respect based on whether someone agrees with you, but that’s not what it means.
I'm really sick of this "i post to be insulting" troll garbage.
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Just because the president doesn’t say or do what you think he should doesn’t mean he isn’t worthy of respect.
Don't disagree with his ideological position nearly as much as the fact that he's an incompetent shmuck who doesn't know his ass from a whole in the ground.
An ass which you seem to bend over backwards to kiss, yet pretend that that is not what you are doing.
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And frankly, I’m sick of people dragging politics down into the mud because they can’t get what they want, which is precisely what you do.
Whatever. You know, this is getting just a little bit creepy. Since when did I say this was about what I wanted?
I was basically just saying "have a backbone" because you posted a rationalization to defend the president's position. that makes you his apologist. It's worse than when a trekkie makes up scientific explanation for why the errors on the show aren't errors.
It makes you look bad, and it makes us look bad, was my point. If we're the mindless zombie army of Bush, then why would anyone listen to our arguments.
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but if you can’t respect the presidency then I’m not interested in your criticism of him
I think this is a fallacious argument. No one deserves automatic respect. That turns politics into a religion. Your base assertion here gives the president a divine authority, reverence by the sheer fact that he holds the office, regardless of his total lack of demonstrated ability.
The truth is, you don't seem to be interested in any criticism of your religious leader. I followed along for far too long, believing in the faux moderates like Bill O'Reilly. But they never really take an independent position, they just cleverly position themselves on the fence, to try to draw unsuspecting folks like me in.
You pretended to take a pro-stem cell position while defending the president's anti-stem cell position, essentially calling it pro-stem cell, which is almost orwelling doubletalk, it's hypocritical at best, and mamby pamby pandering at worst.
I thought you were an independently minded conservative at one point, but when i read this i was disgusted because i thought, "maybe he's just a clever propagandist"
I'm not saying you or anyone else has to agree with me, nor am i whining for not getting my way. such accusations are petty, lame, and a little bit childish
I've already posted a few times that i'm absolutely certain that I am getting my way on stem cells, i think it's a done deal.
But either the president's position is right, or it's wrong. I think that the president is wrong on stem cells, and I think he's wrong because he's backing the position Merck wants him to, because I think the president has no moral character whatsoever, as in zero, nada, zip, and i know people who know him personally. He's not a strong moral person.
If someone was a strong moral person and bought the rtl argument against embryonic stem cells, then fine, just say so. but what i saw in your post which irritated me was you, making up excuses for the president. that's not a strong position, it's a weak yes-man position. so i called you on it, as a paid yes-man, and you flipped.
nothing personal, just calling it as i see it.
not mudslinging. I was calling you out on your pandering defense of the president even while at least pretending to disagree with him, not attacking the president for his corrupt position.
btw - I'm sorry if this comes across as trollish, i just don't know any better.
I'm not just being bitter about the 2000 primary here., bush is a perpetual disappointment, but i think at least a dozen times i've sided with the prez on t
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Finn,
Part of this thread was about the Defense of Marriage Act and how you claimed it was supposed to restore the 'traditional' marriage. But as I stated, like privacy of pregnancy before quickening, gay couples were in fact legal, and when not legally notarized (commoners often didn't have legal contracts) were also acceptable under 'common law':
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience
/20070827/sc_livescience
/gayunionssanctionedinmedievaleurope;_ylt=AvAs8uDYGwYoz7KUw2NBqcCs0NUE
Gay Unions Sanctioned in Medieval Europe Jeanna Bryner
LiveScience Staff Writer
Civil unions between male couples existed around 600 years ago in medieval Europe, a historian now says.
Historical evidence, including legal documents and gravesites, can be interpreted as supporting the prevalence of homosexual relationships hundreds of years ago, said Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania.
If accurate, the results indicate socially sanctioned same-sex unions are nothing new, nor were they taboo in the past.
“Western family structures have been much more varied than many people today seem to realize," Tulchin writes in the September issue of the Journal of Modern History. "And Western legal systems have in the past made provisions for a variety of household structures.”
For example, he found legal contracts from late medieval France that referred to the term "affrèrement," roughly translated as brotherment. Similar contracts existed elsewhere in Mediterranean Europe, Tulchin said.
In the contract, the "brothers" pledged to live together sharing "un pain, un vin, et une bourse," (that's French for one bread, one wine and one purse). The "one purse" referred to the idea that all of the couple's goods became joint property. Like marriage contracts, the "brotherments" had to be sworn before a notary and witnesses, Tulchin explained.
The same type of legal contract of the time also could provide the foundation for a variety of non-nuclear households, including arrangements in which two or more biological brothers inherited the family home from their parents and would continue to live together, Tulchin said.
But non-relatives also used the contracts. In cases that involved single, unrelated men, Tulchin argues, these contracts provide “considerable evidence that the affrèrés were using affrèrements to formalize same-sex loving relationships."
The ins-and-outs of the medieval relationships are tricky at best to figure out.
"I suspect that some of these relationships were sexual, while others may not have been," Tulchin said. "It is impossible to prove either way and probably also somewhat irrelevant to understanding their way of thinking. They loved each other, and the community accepted that.”
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an old thread and how life in the West has changed and not changed
Aussie kids are getting plugged out of the Matrix
in the USA Tradition has returned while in other parts greed and degeneracy is everywhere and Tradition has collapsed
The new Democrat party seems lost
2004-2007
While little Bush could not find bin Laden he opened a new front in the 'War on Terror' with a prolonged conflict in Iraq, it would lead to opposition to Republicans and the growth of Obama movement, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and others.
4Chan type sites born out of the original Japan 2channel and other hacker sites is still a web thing
We got to see the power of Nature with the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami and earthquake
There was a Space Shuttle Columbia disaster relations with Russians were better and they kept the US space program alive and helped truck US Astronauts to the Station, Elon Musk wasn't a thing it was Branson and Burt Rutan and SpaceShipOne and other millionaires and other Billionaire.
Twitter was launched in San Francisco and Pluto lost its planet status.
DVDs were a huge thing, then streaming 5 min clips or downloads of music, finally in recent time a War in Afghanistan came to an end with shocking images from Kabul but somebody had to end that war.
Australian troops stayed for as long as the could and would leave Afghanistan as 20-year mission came to an end, the 'War on Terror'
Back in those days there was talk of Sicko, a documentary on the US healthcare system, premiered at the Cannes Film Festival, a comedian and degenerate weirdo Sacha Baron Cohen made fun of everyone and Kazakhstan with 'Borat'. Million Dollar Baby, The Incredibles, King Kong remakes, Memoirs of a Geisha, The Departed, The Aviator, Brokeback Mountain, Crash, Little Miss Sunshine they were getting awards. That Iraq Dictator guy Bush wanted dead, Saddam Hussein is executed, but Iraq went into Civil War and later a growth of Iranian terrorists, Al-Qaeda and ISIS. There was an Israeli invasion of southern Lebanon in pursuit of Hizbollah or Hezbollah which many consider an Israel stalemate or loss. North Korea after being called part of an Axis of Evil then performed its first nuclear tests. Watch more explosions and Hollyweird blockbusters, the cash flows with Michael Bay’s Transformers.
BigTech started to become a thing as Google purchases YouTube the Stem-Cell ban was probably when the USA stated to lose some of the tech race to people in Asia for example China. Phones would be smart like Japan ones, then Steve Jobs announced Apple’s very first smartphone, the iPhone. The Russians were blagging about NATO and nobody listened and then Russia blocks gas supplies to Ukraine, there were signs of the rise of China, Brazil and India.
then an economic crash started to come and the USA and the World needed a 'Bailout'
to find a trailer online you went to a Sony or Universal site for a movie trailer
social media site 'You Tube' was mostly cat puppy videos or 5 min clips of shows or other 'Crazy Frog' dance then record companies figured it out and you got Katy Perry videos or Maroon 5 or Justin Bieber, clips were still only 10 mins long
A controversial funny nigahiga, the English geriatric1927 Peter Oakley, Smosh imrpov comedy, FilthyWhore, Brookers, a female gamer minecraft ctreamer Aphmau were some of the most watched channels until the media giants of the web the PewDiePie and MrBeast and Joe Rogan came along
Everything looked like Vidlii
'You Know What Really Grinds My Gears - All Official Segments'
https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=9pylUvB8thk
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Originally posted by tethys:
I think stem cell research can possibly help mankind more than harm.
a comment that makes sense
What doesn't make sense in our current clown world
Transexual Gay Lesbos who supprted the islamic invaders that want to chuck them off high buildings?
maybe all these degenerate street parades was the push back and then transexuals coming for the kid
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