Stem-Cells, degenerate Gay Lesbo rights, Abortion, Janet Jackson's boob..what's the problem ??
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Citizen,
it's all subjective of course, such as what a person is. But the argument i was making was about the strength of the argument, which was weak,
Yinyang,
I'm not going to debate gay marriage, I think it's a pointless wedge issue. I was just explaining why it was a partisan issue.
Most partisan issues aren't about 'deep felt beliefs' they are totally mercenary, and about numbers. Legalizing gay marriage would ultimately be more likely to increase the number of democrats, which is maybe why the republican leadership wants it done. They then tell the christians that they want it done, and presto wedge issue o
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Late term abortion...The unborn screams and kicks in pain as he/she is cut into easily removed pieces.... can be heard through the fluttering vulva(music to kaneman's ears...I wish they would amplify the screams) .....enough said....
maybe not,
"If I were on the other side of this issue"
As opposed to what?..The other side of the tissue?
Send me your butchered babies, I will feed them to my children..Shit , it will cut down on my grocery bills....
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First of all, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
My apologies. I didn't realize what a monster this thread had become. I should have quoted, sorry. Actually, I agree with a great deal of what you've posted here. It was one particular point which annoyed me.
The issue was stem cell research. The president has taken a really indefensible position. Why bother to make up rationalizations for why it's okay? it's not okay. It's appallingly bad. It's endlessly corrupt. If we take this sort of position, it makes us look like Bush's lapdogs.
When it comes to RTL I think I'm probably one of the most avid RTLers of the board. it's one of ten reasons the democrats can't get my vote.
But stem cells don't cross rtl,. i don't think that's an honest position. embryonic stem cells can be grown without destroyingthe embryo, and even if they couldn't these are discarded emryos. Also, this debate isn't about that, it's about merck wanting to control stem cells.
I think you basically agree, but your post was sort of "i support stem cell research, but i support the president more"
Bush isn't just a weak republican, he's a disaster. He's like no republican I've ever seen. He's like... Clinton. When you support him, especially when he's wrong, it's like supporting viche france.
it's like people on the pay roll (Your depts. funding is dependent on budgetary concerns, you said as much, which was the reference of bitch but i was being crude,) always seem to sound like that, never seem to say "the president is wrong" like Bill O'Reilly., who is losing all of his mod creds by not calling it when it's clear.
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Secondly, when I think the president is wrong I’ll say that I think he’s wrong, and I have, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to slander him. He’s still the president and he deserves a respect that you and some others evidently don’t really understand.
No one deserves any respect. Respect is earned. There are too many apologists for the president's meaningless and endlessly corrupt positions.
sorry for ragging on you about this, just I see so much of this weakness on the right, kind of gives me a sick feeling.
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Ruse,
"You need to learn to distinguish your emotions from reality. A blob of cells is not a child yet.
You might care deeply for the future child you imagine, but the bedrock of your emotion is that 'childhood' is only a potential future. It hasn't happened yet."
Kaneman's response,
You need to learn to distinguish your emotions from reality. A dying shaking, convulsing blob of "has been" is not a dad.
You may care deeply for the past dad you imagine, but the bedrock of your emotion is that 'old age' is only an alluded to past. In your life. To bad.. It was wasted on the likes of you.
I would love to hear your opinion on when life starts or ends. Also, about late term abortion. or why you can get a legal abortion, but if you kill a pregnant women you can be charged with 2 murders? Oh, the more I listen to your hate filled bullshit(in the name of liberalism) makes me glad your dad died shaking...Fucking coward.....shake shake shake...shake shake shake...shake your booty.....(in the name of the children you belittle) may Ruse's dad burn in hell for putting that baby killer on this earth...DAMN RUSE's DAD.....Burn dildo....
Read what I just wrote...Again.....Again...slowly....once more...Well, it's true........
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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Gay Rights:
The problem with gay marriage is that the American people were basically given an ultimatum. Give up traditional marriage or else.
Ok, in a seriousness, I've never understood this. And when I ask no-one has given me an answer. It's like when I ask, a tumble-weed goes by. So, here it goes...
How? How does allowing gays/lesbians to marry force heterosexuals to give up traditional marriage. Because, as far as I know, heteros will still be able to marry as they have seen fit since records have existed.
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I would like to know too! Personally, I think remarriage goes against traditional marriage. Til death do us part and all that. So lets just go ahead and ban subsequent marriages except in the case of death of a spouse.
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Ruse,
"You need to learn to distinguish your emotions from reality. A blob of cells is not a child yet.
You might care deeply for the future child you imagine, but the bedrock of your emotion is that 'childhood' is only a potential future. It hasn't happened yet."
Kaneman's response,
Read what I just wrote...Again.....Again...slowly....once more...Well, it's true........
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Really Kaneman. That is a bit much even for you. Shame.
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Ruse,
"You need to learn to distinguish your emotions from reality. A blob of cells is not a child yet.
You might care deeply for the future child you imagine, but the bedrock of your emotion is that 'childhood' is only a potential future. It hasn't happened yet."
Kaneman's response,
Read what I just wrote...Again.....Again...slowly....once more...Well, it's true........
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Really Kaneman. That is a bit much even for you. Shame.
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My views on the topics of discussion:
Stem Cells: The embryos used for stem cell research would have been tossed out anyway, and to my limited knowledge, the embyos used for research are not allowed to grow past the stage of a simple multi-celled organism, nowhere near human(I'm deffining "human" as an organism with the ability for abstract thought). So, why not use them if we just throw them away anyway?
The "Gay" community: I've possibly got more homosexual friends than I do hetero friends. Does that make me "Gay?" Nope! About half of the "gay" people I know are Republicans, who voted Bush Jr. in for his first term, then decided they didn't want him for a second. My point is this, the gay community deserves the same rights and oppertunities as the straight community.
Abortion: I'm neither for or against it. What I am against is having some politician in Washington decide what a woman should do with her own body.
Janet Jackson: Big Whoop! I can find better stuff on the "Coretex!"
Religion: I like to keep mine seperated from my political affairs.
Well, there you have it!
Fe'nos Tol
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"Abortion: I'm neither for or against it. What I am against is having some politician in Washington decide what a woman should do with her own body."
Define it first you freak. Call it what it is. The murder of an unborn baby. What does that have to do with Washington? I love that it is usually the same people that want us to save the twin horned frog and the rain forest, that are the first to chop up a fetus and feed it to a barn owl...all in the name of Women's rights...What a joke......Well, it's true.......
FMF,
"Really Kaneman. That is a bit much even for you. Shame."
I do it for the unborn and their soon to be ripped off appendages... Shame on me
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Define it first you freak. Call it what it is. The murder of an unborn baby. What does that have to do with Washington? I love that it is usually the same people that want us to save the twin horned frog and the rain forest, that are the first to chop up a fetus and feed it to a barn owl...all in the name of Women's rights...What a joke......Well, it's true.......
Learn how to push the button that says "reply with quote" nimrod! It will make snide remarks MUCH easier to label!
Okay, you want me to define abortion, if the pregnancy is terminated early in the first trimester, the fetus hasn't had time to develop into little more than a tadpole, within the second and third trimesters the fetus developes a more infant like appearance. However, until the umbilical cord is cut, the baby is more like a parasite (albeit, a cute one.) I'll give you that a late term abortion is more like murder, I still think that it should be the woman, on an individual basis that decides what she does with her body and baby. My comment about abortion having to do with politicians in washington, means that I don't want to have someone else, namely, President Bush, trying to meddle in affairs that have no bearing on a national scale. Bush tried to get an abortion bill passed(banning abortion), thusly, forcing HIS will on the people he is supposed to be serving!
The American people are supposed to tell the President what THEY want him to do, not have him tell THEM what to do! (that's usually how democracy works, the government is "By the people, For the people.")
Fe'nos Tol, Bitch!
Edit: I'm a bad, bad man.
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