Joss Discussed Sequel and Other Things
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like some posts iv seen on here im only very recent to FF. After watching Serenity only a few months ago, i was suprised i had never heard of FF before, coming from Australia we dont get that much US television . But recently i stumbled on FF being shown at 1 in th morning. I have to say, there are only very few tv shows that i must watch, FF is undoubtably the best show i have ever watched. From what i can loosly gather a number of fans have only really come about after watching Serenity and then moving back to FF. what i want to know, is what the rating of FF when it was on air compared to the ticket prices and dvd numbers of Serenity comparable? id dare say that FF sales have gotten a boost from Serenity. my last question is who owns the rights to FF ? if you really wanted FF back as much as i do, im hoping a number of u have joined togethor and lobied the FF execs?
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I just read this whole thread. Somebody mentioned that those who hold the rights to FF and Serenity should either
1) make a sequel, or
2) sell the rights to someone else who can make it successful.
Then the point was brought up that since these people are so sickeningly greedy, they should be falling all over themselves to make money by pursuing either 1 or 2 above.
The problem is this. Yes, they are greedy. But like most greedy men, they are first and foremost cowards.
These cowards are afraid to put their necks on the line and support a series that had at one point failed.
These cowards are likewise afraid to put their necks on the line by selling a property to a rival studio that might become successful somewhere else. Imagine if this happened, and FF became immensely successful, as we all know it would. The network would demand to know who sold the rights to the show, and it would be goodbye to the person who sold it.
Right now, it is "safe" in the dungeons of the evil ones. Why risk backing it? Why risk selling it? The potential for failure is too great for the coward to face. Better to let it sit. Who cares if there are fans out there screaming for it?
There are few-to-no idealists in the Hollywood beaurocracy who might champion something like FF in the halls of F_X. Idealists tend to get fired and replaced by spineless little weasels who are masters of survival, that only do enough to keep their high salary positions while not drawing attention to themselves by supporting financially questionable (in their eyes) series unless the numbers really favor their success.
It really sucks. But hopefully, when the contracts expire, a window will open up that allows someone better, who will treat the show right, to step in and pick it up without any cowards over at F_X feeling like they might lose their jobs.
Recently, Threshold went over to the Sci-Fi network. And with Battlestar Galactica, they've proven that they can handle a series that is both well written and beautiful to look at. They've also replayed the FF series quite often. I would LOVE to see it go over there.
Just need to get past the cowards at F_X.
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So...the fact that the BDM made no money in the box office...does that weigh into people's predictions for BDM2?
I guess...I mean...if money makes the world go round...then there's not a lot of...hmmm...steam behind a sequal.
Thoughts?
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Originally posted by akredhead:
So...the fact that the BDM made no money in the box office...does that weigh into people's predictions for BDM2?
I guess...I mean...if money makes the world go round...then there's not a lot of...hmmm...steam behind a sequal.
Thoughts?
It made no money at the U.S. box office but did make money at the the foreign box office and U.S. and international DVD sales, I believe. All told, it was a money-making enterprise for Universal.
A number of things have been discussed, including a straight-to-DVD release (in other words, a silver screen production that never sees the silver screen). Quite a number of movies are made that way now.
A miniseries on the Sci-Fi channel is an option, presumably.
It would seem to me that the only way for something like this to sell really well at the U.S. box office is to have a guest star (i.e. a Robert Redford or Jennifer Aniston type). A good segment of the movie-going population would show up just to see that person. But then, you would have to weigh whether it would be worth the extra cash this person would get and whether the flow of the story would have to be significantly altered so the person could get enough screen time to make his appearance worthwhile.
I think, in order to save money, Joss should film 2 and 3 at the same time (LOTR-style). The second film should be a major cliffhanger leading into the grand finale.
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does anyone know where i would send a letter to those bastards holding "ff" captive. I must have more!!
"I start fighting a war, I garantee you'll see something new!"
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Story to date. First, I was coming up on retirement, I was tired and when I got home, I never watched television...so I never saw Firefly when it was running. I felt too old. Then I did retire and my dear wife decided we should go to movies again; another thing that had slid away. And I saw "Serenity" and it was touching and exciting and the best science fiction movie I had seen since I was growing up in the 50's. Because it was about people, not lasercannons or starfleets, etc. Like I said, it was good; I wanted to see some more. On November 3rd of this year I was able to use a nice 10% off coupon at a certain major chain store...and I saw the "Firefly" series, so I picked it up. I watched the first episode that night. In fact, I watched the first three full discs that night, fell asleep, woke up and watched the fourth. It's now November 6th, and I've watched the series two more times. I love the family. I feel it inside me now. I missed it all when it was going, but now I've found it. And I'm another year older than when I retired, but I've been feeling younger since November 3rd. Someone noted that other shows have come back. Seems I remember one series that only ran 3 years. I have faith, Firefly will be back.
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first id like to say a giant "HEYYYYYYYYY!!!"
to all my fellow browncoats, im a new one to this here ship...saw the signal when the dvd came out, loved it...bought the show couple months back...but just finished them...I AM HOOKED. Cant wait to
join the movement.
anyways i think we would be pressing our luck hoping for another "Big Screen" Serenity film...
I really beleive we need to concentrate on getting Universal whom owns Sci fi to do serenity 2 as a Sci fi Original 2 hour film....the budget would be considerably less than the BDM, but it would still be slightly higher than the tv episode rate...and I beleive on Sci Fi , the amount of exposure and turnout that would happen for such a cult show/movie would be immense for a cable channel telefilm...Plus with smaller investment in the physical feature, the dvd's would be that much more profitable...
I just truly beleive our next step/path belongs on tv...be it a sci fi telefilm or mini series ...or serenity series...The show firefly is dead, but serenity is still flying.
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well, I think a Sci-Fi original movie or mini-series would be a great way to whet the public's appetite for another show set in the 'Verse.
however, I, personally, would like to see the Malcolm Reynolds story arc resolved on the silver screen since that is where the story is now. I really think the 2nd film has the potential to be much more successful commercially.
they probably will need a Hollywood star to play a prominent role (most likely the antagonist), though, in order to get the public to go.
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Hello FireflyImnotwholewithoutit (pauses to take breath) Welcome to the boat.
Hiya FormerlyEmployed, welcome.Glad that you found your way to the verse. Being retired you can watch tons of FF then come back to the forum here and we can talk about it. That is if you want to 
PSIFREEK27, hello and welcome. We are always glad to have new recruits come aboard when the ramps lowered. There's plenty of room.
I myself would like to see a new series start up. The fan numbers are there so there wouldn't be any problem attracting viewers. The lure of FF was made to be shown weekly, but I would enjoy seeing a second BDM or mini-series on Si/Fi as well. I do agree that a BDM2 would more than likely need a BDS (big damn star) to kick-start many ppl to go see it. Those that normally aren't movie going folks. I remember for the Tomb Raider movies that I didn't think Angelina Jolie was the right actress. She had star power and the first movie made enough coin to have a second one made. For a Big Damn Sequel this may need to happen too. One guy I think could really help bring out the crowds would be the "ROCK". He could be introduced as one of Mal and Zoey's old war buddies in a BDSequel then make guess appearances in the series just as Yosaffbridge and Badger (both btw should return also).
Just some thoughts, Z
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Thanks for the welcome!def glad to be here!
about BDM 2...hmm im not even sooo sure we need 1 huge star as opposed to maybe having 2-3 very recognizable people...say if fellow jossverse star
David Boreanaz was to show up, and maybe be like somesort of thorn in the mal/inara relationship, he would attract his angel fans, his bones fans...and then also just fill in the rest with other well knowns that have followings.
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