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What's wrong with being a tough guy?

POSTED BY: ChrisMoorhead
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 21:49
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:26 AM

I'm confused... what are you all talking about?! We're supposed to be hugging, damnit!

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:01 PM

The thing is most of us here want and do live in a society where we act civilised and violence isn't the solution to anything other than getting a stuck key out of the door.

Now our society has lots of problems but one of the biggest is holdovers like yourself who see violence as one of your main options for things not going your way. Your friend says something you don't like - beat him up. Your girlfriend decides to leave you for someone better - beat the other guy up. Someone cuts you up in traffic - beat him up.

That's not the world anymore. That's the response of a caveman. Grow up. Learn the rules of decent society before you do something really stupid.

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:26 PM

I'm with Simonwho.

The point isn't what you do with like-minded people who enjoy getting beaten up so they can laugh about it later. (For whatever reason.)

The point are things like beating up someone because he cut you off in traffic. That's pointless, self-agrandizing violence upon a person who does NOT share this love of hurting and being hurt. That's a threat against all people who, like me, enjoy using brains over brawn and consider violence wrong.

You don't use a disclaimer that says "I only beat up people who enjoy it!", you just post stories about beating someone and then you wonder why you get digusted responses?


And yes, Firefly is a fantasy. It's a tv show. It explores aspects of humanity, like all fiction. Not everyone considers our BDH's role-models in every. single. way.

Not to mention the fact that their violence occurs in a world where it sometimes has its place. Civilian, democratic society? Generally not. Your violence is for fun. Just make sure you keep it confined to victims who actually consider it that, and explain that when you post about the next person you beat up, so we'll know you haven't committed violent crime. I'm sure then the insults will stay away.

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:48 AM

Why are we not hugging yet!?

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:05 AM

Someone, please, stop talking crazy and HUG ME!

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:48 AM

You're not Batman. You're not Conan. There's no honour or valour in beating up those who offend your sensibilities. You're no hero for vandalising the vehicle of those who upset you.

You're obviously intelligent, you're obviously literate, which makes it even more infuriating that you seem hellbent on throwing any useful purpose to your life away. You've made your own food in the wild: big wow, I did CCF training with the same thing, I've killed chickens with my bare hands for dinner, eaten self-collected herbs and berries... doesn't mean a damn thing. Stop pretending it's 2000 years ago.

And you might think that people in this thread were joking or trying to get a rise out of you when then said you should get therapy. Well, I'm not. Spend one hour a week for six weeks talking to someone, see if there's not something to it.

And I hate to burst your bubble but nearly every civilisation uses one form of drugs or another. Call it Dutch Courage or a quick snifter, people like to alter their mental state of mind.

>>I say that taking beatings and delivering them is a vital part of life that gives you a greater appreciation for everything else, making you stronger and more productive in the long run.

Oh god. Please, please tell me you're not one of those who think Fight Club is the movie to base your life on. I mean, at least you actually seem to have some follow through on the idea but if I read one more post from someone quoting a character who is purely the fictional construct of a nerdy guy having a mental breakdown as though he were Jesus, I'm going to scream.

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:20 AM

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Also, AgentRouka, whatever the reason people get mad at me, I would ask weather or not it's justified. I may post things that people don't like, but I never insult them or call any of them names when I'm making a topic or a first response, and I never make any statements like "I hate niggers" or something equally as inciting.

So I have to ask, are their demeaning responses where they accuse me of being everything, from uneducated to a caveman to a rapist, justified just because they don't like that I hit some guy that they never met? I would say no and shame them for being so rude to someone just because they don't like what they had to say. I create topics in interest of people responding who are of the same mind as me. I usually find a couple, so saying "there's none here" is just plain un-true. The ONLY problem is that every high and mighty jerk who thinks that he'll be the one to tell me off wants to get on his damn soapbox and condem me for being who I am.



Dude.

There is a difference between having an unpopular opinion using using that unpopular opinion as a justification for harming other people.

You mntion other vices, but there is a very significant difference between your choice of hobby and other people's:

Drinking & drugs = harms the person that does it.
Masturbation = harms... no one. Affects only the person who does it.

Violence = harms NOT just the person who does it. Violence is you acting against another person. Doesn't just concern you. Concerns everyone!

It's not something you can sell as a personal opinion. You declaring that you consider it a vital part of life completely desregards the people who, quite simply, don't, and it's a threat against them. Anyone who does something you deem provoking could be your next victim. That's not harmless or neutral, and stop pretending that it is!

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:05 PM

What's wrong with you people!? Why are you making up quotes that I never said!? I JUST WANT TO BE HUGGED!

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:27 PM

HUGS I SAY!

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Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:42 PM

As the way Man-ape gone wrong things go, you ain't half bad CMH. You have clarity whereas others (former military, ex-cons, Springer fans) that I know could barely form complete sentances. I don't agree with all you have to say and at times I downright loathe the attitude. But you're truthful and you got guts. And guts is enough. Thanks for staying true to yourself and bending only for your own well being.

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