Universal Licensing Closing Cafepress (Firefly stuff), Black Market Beagles, 11th Hour
POSTED BY: Mavourneen
UPDATED: Friday, October 27, 2006 16:13
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They are ONLY enforcing the copyright issue, its a legal thing, its not about finances and recognizing the value of the Verse. What I am worried about is the farther reaching possibilities. This wont stop at Cafe Press, this will continue onto other fan stores where there is some good quality stuff. And for those people who think uUniversal and Fox won't go there, think again.
It means they are clamping down on the ability of fans to express themselves and to be able to have a wide array of stuff not available from the companies since those companies didn't seem interested in producing those smart items. Plus this ain't cheap to make for free, it has to be sold.
And what I am especially worried about is that Universal and Fox will take it to the next level in going after sites like FFF.net or serenitymovie.net or others, and for people who think that won't happen, take a look what happened in the Simpson's fandom.
Prakash
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There seems to be a double standard out there. Wonder why all of a sudden this has happened.
Everybody always has the advantage over us, but that's what makes us special...and Browncoats.
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Closer investigation reveals that those pages are still up at cafepress, but you gotta know where to look.
I've ordered a shirt or two from earthgirl at cafepress, and had a link to her shop under favorites. It's all still there...but I wonder if you try to order something that is copywrited you'd get blocked.
http://www.cafepress.com/fireflycargobay
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Another question:
I know that the C&D's have come from Universal to individual shops, but did they also send a C&D to Cafepress to stop the searches? Or was that Cafepress acting on their own 'initiative'? (Or could it be a coincidental fault?)
mrben
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Just a thought: I noticed that some of the licensed shops are selling 'Browncoat'merchandise...
While we may not have any legal standing, is it right/moral that they can shut Browncoat shops selling Firefly/Serenity merchandise, and yet they sell Browncoat merchanise?
Especially so, when the only reason there is a 'problem' at all is because of us Browncoats in the first place. Shouldn't we send them a cease and desist for Browncoat merchandise?
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Maybe that's just Mal's luck-- The 'versary job caused a powerful disturbance in the force and now Sauron /really/ knows we're here.
...uh, blue pill, anyone?
--Mwa
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Yeah, we're pretty much just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.
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While we may not have any legal standing, is it right/moral that they can shut Browncoat shops selling Firefly/Serenity merchandise, and yet they sell Browncoat merchanise?
Especially so, when the only reason there is a 'problem' at all is because of us Browncoats in the first place. Shouldn't we send them a cease and desist for Browncoat merchandise?
Browncoat is a term used in Firefly and Serenity, so they could argue they own the phrase. I'm not kiddin'. I doubt they would bother though.
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True enough, but does simply using it in dialogue count under copyright? It wasn't until the community of fans began using it that it truly was given meaning.
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True enough, but does simply using it in dialogue count under copyright? It wasn't until the community of fans began using it that it truly was given meaning.
I've no idea, to be honest.
It's a tough one to call. At the end of the day, as long as Universal and friends stay the hell away from website lawsuits I'm okay. There have been cases where media companies have gone after things like fan fiction sites, and that way leads a world of pain. Again, though, I doubt they would bother.
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Universal and/or Fox's legal team doesn't come cheap so they don't just go around whilly nilly making life bad for people (inspite of what most of us think). And they both probably have a ToDo list longer than, well, it's really long. So, given those 2 items, for Firefly Serenity to be something they are actively spending time and money on means they must see a justifiable, hard dollar value in them. So potentially it has to be much better than being on their "dead to us" list.
Of course, they could just be dicks...
Sorry for all the creative Browncoats...
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