Does rewatching Serenity mean you enjoy it less?

POSTED BY: Aramina
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 23:15
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MSG

Monday, October 23, 2006 3:54 PM

For me it's like a few brief hours with beloved friends. Even knowing two are doomed,I still watch witht he same joy, breathless awe, and enthusiasm I had from the first moment...I love that movie and will love it forever.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

REDLAVA

Monday, October 23, 2006 3:59 PM

It loses a little bit for me, but that is only because I know what is going to happen and know almost every line. You can't get that feeling of watching a movie for the very first time back, unless you are an amnesia victim. But I wouldn't watch it over and over if I didn't enjoy it. Which by the way doesn't happen very often. I am usually one of those people who watches a movie once and will probably never watch it again. My DVD collection has like 10 movies in it. Unless it is a very special movie in some way like the BDM is.

Everybody always has the advantage over us, but that's what makes us special...and Browncoats.

CHRISISALL

Monday, October 23, 2006 4:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Aramina:

So how often do you all watch the film and the show?

Seen Serenity near 30 times, each ep of the show over 10 now (Ariel, Out of Gas and Objects in Space closer to 15).

Serenity is like Blade Runner, it never gets old, and always has it's impact; it's more than an adventure tale, it's SF at it's best, asking the hard questions with characters that are your family.
Tissues always a must...

Blow-hard Chrisisall

RIMGIRL

Monday, October 23, 2006 4:14 PM

I agree that the first time you watch for what happens. I didn't get to enjoy the interaction of the characters until subsequent viewings.
E.g. The first 5 times I was so shocked by Wash's death that I didn't process the next couple of scenes. It was only recently that Kaylee's reaction to "He's not coming." tore my heart out.

Also, in the BDS:OiS, Jayne says something about the Tams shouldn't even be on the boat and Mal angrily says, "Is that the direction you want this conversation to go?" I only recently figured out that he was referring to how Jayne tried to get them off the boat in Ariel.

And of course, is it bad that, after many repeated viewings, what River says starts to make perfect sense?

The genius of Joss is that sometimes the characters are referring to stuff you won't find out about until later.

ARAMINA

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:25 PM

Thank you everyone for your responses so far. It's been really helpful and given me an idea of the different ways people think about Wash's death. And thanks to those who mentioned Book as well. While I'm not planning on going into too much detail about that part of the film, it is useful to compare the thoughts about both deaths.

I need to think about the way people talked about Wash before and after Serenity was released, do any of you have links to old threads you think might be useful? Or can you explain your thoughts about Wash before and after the film?

Have any of you produced anything for the Blue Sun Room that relates to Wash's death? Or if you haven't have you thought about it?

NOSADSEVEN
Thanks for the link! I haven't read any of that at all. Most of my research is focused on this forum (including a huge trawl back through the Blue Sun Room items to this time a year ago) because I'm trying to keep the information I gather centred on one particular community to narrow things down. But I will definitely have a proper look at that when I get a chance to.

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PLATONIST

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:19 PM

I was always lukewarm on the movie especially when I compared it to the series for many of the same reasons stated above (Wash's death, lack of crew interactions, quality scenes deleted because of time/pacing.)

Then after several viewings of my dusty DVD and a HD viewing on HBO, I started to come away with a broader interperation of the movie in terms of what was accomplished within the context of storytelling.

The movie does an excellent job carrying the major themes of the series, such as, love's strength and the ties it creates (Mal/Inara), the importance of family loyalty (crew), the sacrafice these take (Book, Zoe and Wash), belief in justice(getting the word out), redemption(Mal/River) and so forth... When viewed in a larger context Wash's death becomes meaningful and should be viewed as heroic.

That doesn't mean we can't cry during his death or that we won't miss him in the sequel.

TERRI

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:13 AM

See, like I've said many times, I got into the Serenifly 'verse with the movie. And when I watched the movie, I had no knowledge (or at least hadn't seen) the show, or any of the characters. But I still cried when Wash died. Not going to lie to you. And then, to make it kinda worse, when I watched it a week later, I cried again. Then a week after that, again. But lately, I still get hella depressed, but I'm able to keep my emotions in check.

NOSADSEVEN

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:51 AM

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Originally posted by Aramina:

NOSADSEVEN
Thanks for the link! I haven't read any of that at all. Most of my research is focused on this forum (including a huge trawl back through the Blue Sun Room items to this time a year ago) because I'm trying to keep the information I gather centred on one particular community to narrow things down. But I will definitely have a proper look at that when I get a chance to.

You're welcome, but it's pretty damn big, so I'm not sure how much of a 'proper' look you'll be able to give it! And I'll warn you - it was pretty rough-and-tumble over there at times. But it was really one of the only places to discuss the movie during that pre-screening period. There was comparatively little movie discussion here (on fff.n) before the release.

I'm also going to assume that you haven't heard about the controversial "SaveWash" campaign started up after one of the earliest pre-screenings:
http://jacquelinepassey.blogs.com/savewash/

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Ain't. We. Just.

PSYKOTEK

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:56 AM

I saw Serenity opening weekend,
when the book died I figured hoaky, that means mal has to go kill'em all

but when Walsh died I screamed FUCK NO, inna crowded theatre in PHX,

when Kaylee, got hit in the kneck with thosew green darts, I turned to my girlfriend and said " fuck he's gonns kill them all"
I was worried for the lives of my crew, thouhgt Joss was gonna end it under his control

glad he didn't
still miss walsh
and "Out of Gas" was the best episode

HATHOS

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:08 AM

To the original question......I totally disagree. That guys must be a heartless robot to say that repeat exposure to stimuli will always cause desensitation. Yea, people get "used" to seeing things over and over agian. But when something has an emotional effect, it remains. Maybe not as potent as the first time, but remains none the less. Movies are in fact "art", and if that is the case then Firefly and Serenity in my eyes are Masterpeices.

When I first saw Serenity, I had never even heard of "Firefly" or anything concerning it. My buddy handed me a burned DVD and said "hey if your bored watch this". Not knowing what I was about to see I said "eh....okay." The moment Serenity was over.....for the second time, heh.
I ran out and purchased my legal and store bought copy (I figured something that good deserves to be owned legally). At this point I still had no idea there was a series. It took a few more viewings before I dove into the extras.
Once I realized there was "more". I was back to the store...again, buying the "Firefly" series. Honestly, the best money I've spent in a good long while. Kudos to Joss. Well done man!! Although I'm a late comer to whole "firefly" and "Serenity" thing, I am extremely upset at it being cancelled. There could be Sooooooo much more. Seriously...I'm truely saddened by this.

"Guy killed me with a sword Mel.... How weird is that?"

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