I support Bush because ....
POSTED BY: rue
UPDATED: Monday, September 18, 2023 03:50
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Originally posted by rue:
WHY DO YOU SUPPORT BUSH?
You haven't figured it out by now?
JUST TO PISS YOU OFF!!!!
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When something is provable - for example, Bush did lie the US into an Iraq war of aggression - do you not believe in calling it the evil that it is? When Bush repeatedly does these kinds of things, do you not think truth should be told?
Once again, if this stuff were provable; actually legally provable, instead of just a patchwork of allegations, why hasn't someone stepped forward with an indictment or bill of impeachment? I find it hard to believe that there isn't one liberal state attorney general, Senator, or Congressman who wouldn't file papers if they thought there was a good chance of convicting, or even embarrassing, the Bush administration. But I guess that Conspiracy Theory World operates on different rules than the real world.
Maybe that's why you won't mention who it is that you support. There is no one pure enough to gain your blessing: no one who's not in on the conspiracy to keep Bush in power.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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"Once again, if this stuff were provable; actually legally provable, instead of just a patchwork of allegations, why hasn't someone stepped forward with an indictment or bill of impeachment?"
DUH! Republicans impeaching republicans? Don't you wonder why they're so afraid of losing control of Congress? Oh, and BTW, the republican congress killed the office of the independent counsel in 1992 by not reauthorizing it. It was reinstituted by the republican congress in 1994 to 'investigate' Clinton, and allowed to lapse again in 1999. That's why there are no indictments. DUH!
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Quote:How can somebody so smart be so stupid????
Once again, if this stuff were provable; actually legally provable, instead of just a patchwork of allegations, why hasn't someone stepped forward with an indictment or bill of impeachment?
Oh, that's right.... you're not stupid. But that only leaves a couple of other options as to why you would even post this, and neither one of them is pretty...
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Once again, if this stuff were provable; actually legally provable, instead of just a patchwork of allegations, why hasn't someone stepped forward with an indictment or bill of impeachment? I find it hard to believe that there isn't one liberal state attorney general, Senator, or Congressman who wouldn't file papers if they thought there was a good chance of convicting, or even embarrassing, the Bush administration. But I guess that Conspiracy Theory World operates on different rules than the real world.
well for one, its incredibly difficult to provide evidence of conpiracy with intent; regardless of the subject matter. but throw that charge at the federal government, and the international central banking institutions, at which point it takes a divine miracle to initiate an investigation(let alone an independant one.. as the 9/11 commission is evidence to).
to start, you guys in the mainstream would actually have to cover what we consider to be the 'loose ends' that give our conspiracies credibility, rather then denegrate us and call us loony toons; like building 7s mathmatically impossible collapse and the oh-so-coincidental CIA insider trading prior to the attacks. unless the public is made aware of all the facts, and not solely those that conform to the official fabrication, then we cant rightly be expected to bring those responsible to justice. the next time OReilly covers the 9/11 conspiracies, take notice that he cant even seem to comprehend our the allegations, but instead just verbally assualts his guests rather then debate them on the merits of the information; clearly many people do not care what evidence points to government complicity, because that would then expose certain individuals for their gullability in buying the governments stricly emotional claims about evil arabs.
it would take a media circus, something beyond OJ Simpson or the CLinton-Lewinsky scandal, to really rally the public behind a real independant investigation of organisations like the Fed and CFR, two groups i dont doubt are privy to the NWO conspiracy(as they are Americas main proponants). in all reality, to expose one facet of the NWO conspiracy would be to illegitimize our entire political landscape, and show it for the fraud that it is.. which will quite frankly never happen. there is far too much of a vested interest in the status quo, and too many nazi drones who think whats good for the party is good for America
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Slick,
To answer your question and put your agitation to rest -
"Maybe that's why you won't mention who it is that you support. There is no one pure enough to gain your blessing: no one who's not in on the conspiracy to keep Bush in power."
I don't support ANY ONE person. I support ANYONE who looks like they have a good chance of getting in office who's better than Bush. That's a low standard, not a high one.
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Rue, I'm going to quote you extensively because I think you make a good point
Quote:Geezer- it's not that you support Bush. It's that you lie about it... either to yourself or to everyone else.
In the entire period I looked at, you mentioned ONCE that you disagreed with Bush on religion in government, discrimination against gays and abortion. You never argued against them in any way, you just mentioned once that you diasagreed. So did you ever POST a argument on these issues? No. On related issues like the Supreme Court nominations, did you post anything at all? No. On other pertinent issues, for example torture, WMD claims, 'seven minutes', and ghost detainees, you posted nothing at all. There is a legal maxim - silence is consent. And then you spent well over 95% of your posts either defending, excusing, minimizing, lying, derailing, or otherwise engaged in pro-Bush propaganda... Out of 46 quotes, you... disagreed 2.7% of the time. YOU are the reason why I said (far above) when someone agrees 95% of the time, they are a de facto Bush supporter.
Be loud and be proud! YOU SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE...
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Be loud and be proud! YOU SUPPORT BUSH BECAUSE...
...IT PISSES YOU OFF.
I get endless giggles out of imagining you and Rue spending all your spare time either fuming in anger over some minor point or fixatedly poring through years of old posts to come up with an exact percentage of the time I've defended Bush's positions. I'm proud to consider myself at least partially responsible for your increasingly radical and extremist views.
But what's really the best is that you both can't even envision anyone disagreeing with you who's not part of some vast hidden conspiracy with unstated but obviously evil goals. Paranoia strikes deep, indeed.
As for Bush? Hell, I didn't even vote for the guy, in either election. I doubt he and his cronies are bright enough to carry out the complex, secretive, and sinister plans you credit them with. I consider him a below par President presented with problems greater than he can handle. I actually have some sympathy for his plight, which is what lead me to expound alternatives to the "Evil Bush" in the first place, but then it just became too much fun to stop.
Well, it's been real(or maybe surreal), but every game must end. I'll leave you guys on Conspiracy World and see if there's any rational discourse left out there in RWD land.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Geezer, given that you don't credit Bush or his Cronies with much intelligence, a point on which we are in agreement,
Wouldn't you still respect the posibility then, that barring getting into the whitehouse on his own merits, there are bigger players behind the scenes that helped to prop him up as President?
Most of us on the left do think he's too stupid to be the devil, but this man's policies are evil, even if he doesn't understand that. True he is no Lex Luther criminal mastermind, but his lack of intelectual curiosity is a type of evil.
we could spend all day separating the sinner from the sin. We could bother to distinguish between what Bush does and what Bush is, and maybe that's all worth debating, but the fact of the matter is he does lots of evil, even if he isn't.
The same distinction could be made for the powers-that-be that helped to get this man into office - that's the major corporate donors, the media complicity...etc. All by themselves I'm not sure which of the contributors are evil incarnate - their intentions certainly have nothing to do with good or evil, but with money(the source of all evil...huh).
'Dark-side of the force conspiracy theories' are hardly what most of us on the left subscribe to. But self-interest is a dark force in-and-of itself, and when the selfish interests of the few have like a hundred times more representation(the power of the mighty dollar) than the needs of the rest of the populace, I don't care how evil these people themselves are, their actions are greedy, their results are evil.
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Quote:That's funny, I've actually become increasingly moderate.
I'm proud to consider myself at least partially responsible for your increasingly radical and extremist views.
Quote:Huh? (think Scooby Doo)
But what's really the best is that you both can't even envision anyone disagreeing with you who's not part of some vast hidden conspiracy with unstated but obviously evil goals. Paranoia strikes deep, indeed.
Geezer, when you asked "Why hasn't Bush been indicted yet?" I wonder why someone as bright as you- someone who has repeatedly claimed to know the intimate workings of government- would say something so utterly brainless? If I had said something that idiotic it would jolt me into backtracking to find exactly where my thinking had gone wrong.
You OTOH take a purely Rovian appraoch: Turn attention by calling your opponents names - paranoid, radical, extremist, dancing to your tune. How long did it take for you to craft THAT little gem of a reply?
It... and all those other little rhetorical tricks of yours ... are so ingrained and gosh-darned predictable that I wonder where you picked up such nasty habits. And in such a smart man, too. tsk tsk
My advice- Lose the political operative approach. It's not your views that are disgusting it's your dishonesty.
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