Joss Discussed Sequel and Other Things

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ARYDRALL

Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:20 PM

Hey guys. I'm new to the site...and while I never watched that one tv network's horrible dissection of Firefly, I did get to see it finally at the beginning of the year.

And I would religiously have turned on the TV for this show. There's only one other tv show that will attract me like that, and that's the freakin' Daily Show on Comedy Central.

The story's magical. The wisecracks, the seriousness, the philosophy, standing up for what you believe in, no matter the costs.

This is me on an adventure through old tv shows (anyone remember Max Headroom back in the 80's? Also brilliant and cancelled much too early) and discovering this little shred of hope...one last hope...and I get all flustered. ;)

Especially after reading some of the posts in this thread. Wow, guys. There's a lot of love here.

So I'll chime in with the standard. Don't give up. Never let dreams die that are worthy of life. Believe in something so strongly that it'll come to reality.

Even simple words are meaningful.

ZZETTA13

Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:12 PM

Hiya Arydrall, welcome to the boat. Your story is familiar. Discovering FF after it had been canceled happened to a lot of browncoats. But we are here and ready to move on and help the show continue. We will fight the fight and return to "Serenity Valley" for victory. We will hold and that's all there is to it. Grab some mudders milk, join the conversation and tell everyone you know about the "verse" and what they're missing if they don't at least watch it once.

Glad that you're here,Z

PIPEWRENCHDALE

Monday, October 16, 2006 9:53 PM

Sat down in front of the the ol´ TV last night. No hope of finding any good programs though, just spending the last few hours of the weekend.
But when I switched on TV400 (on Swedish television). To my surprise! Firefly - Bushwacked

I was smiling all night

BROTHERJULIAN

Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:02 AM

..small earth-toned objects tumble from the drop shuttle as it blazes past on a low altitude insertion. Drogue chutes deploy in a desperate effort to counter the killing velocity imparted to their charges by the necesity of getting them in quickly before they could be picked off by flak.
The Volunteer quickly detaches from his rig, grabs his weapon, and follows the last order given by his sgt. "Get your butt on the line and hold it.". Observing the nature of his situation he wonders, what the hell have I gotten into?....

Hi. I am not a totlaly new recruit, I have about a year under my belt and I have posted here a couple of times before. I do feel some of the guilt for not having been on of the original Browncoats, but that is water under the bridge.

My thoughts about the possibility of Firefly/Serenity making a comback anytime soon are not optimistic. However, I feel that if we hold the line longe enough and continue to build our numbers, there may be a new begining for us yet. It may not be the Verse we all currently know and love. I think that in a far future we may get another go at it just like Battlestar Galactica did. Anyone else think the way I do on that?

Brother Julian, Defender of the Faith.

NUMEROCINCUENTAUNO

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 5:25 AM

Look, I would be the first in line for a BDM2 (or a Faith the Vampire Slayer Season 1, or a Spike movie, or Ripper (Giles in the UK)). The Joss quote is a fascinating glimpse into the the world of a creative mind who by now has considerable experience in the process that governs whether any of these things get done.

As far as I know, the Whedonverse began when he got a movie made out of the BTVS idea, that had some moments but didn't quite work. He resurrected that idea as a midseason replacement on a network that needed some young-demographic buzz. BTVS Season 1 was often lightweight, but enough to buy them Season 2, which was arguably as good a season as any fantasy/sf series ever made. By the time Firefly debuted, Joss briefly had the distinction of having three series on primetime network (USA) television.

For those of you who regret not supporting Firefly, don't feel bad. At that point, I was not watching any of Joss's three series. I am a longtime SF fan (Asimov, Heinlein, etc.), and I had heard of the new series, but I had somewhat confused it with Farscape. In any event, between work, children, and Fall sports, it is hard for me to get interested in a new series right away. Then the network meddling put the final spike through the heart of the show -- delay the pilot, make them write a new opener over a weekend, jerk them around on the schedule, run the rest of the episodes out of order, and then cancel before anyone got a chance to sort it out. Under those circumstances, Firefly never had a chance.

You could also make a case that Firefly was too good for network TV. The subtleties of the world were apt to get lost in the half-attention state of broadcast TV than in the interruptionless world of DVD.

Read Joss' quote again for its insight into HIS world. Yeah, in a perfect (Joss) world, he'd do a BDM2 or a series, but the reality is that the availabilty of Concept, Money, Talent, and Demand swirl around in a constantly-changing kaleidoscope of possible but ephemeral combinations. If Joss can use his talent to grab the best possible combination out of this melange, we should rejoice over whatever comes about, whether it is part of his old visions or something entirely new.

For the rest of you, Joss himself left the signpost:

"Can't stop the wave, Mal."

Fireflyfans lives on because of the underlying feeling that the brief shooting star of Firefly/Serenity left many stories untold and relationships unresolved. Even if Joss devoted himself to the Fireflyverse, he couldn't tell them all, and in the process we might lose so many other original stories. The Firefly afterlife need not be another movie or series. Even if a large percentage of Fanfic is goh-se, some of you will be talented enough to move the story forward. I look forward to reading those stories.

BROWNCOAT555

Friday, October 20, 2006 2:06 PM

The bottom line is that Mal and Company can only finish their story on the silver screen at this point. Their story is just too epic at this point for Firefly under a different name.

I say Joss should plot out 2 more movies and make it an epic sci-fi trilogy. Then, come up with an entirely new cast and (if he feels really daring) have another show about smugglers OR come up with something that might be a little more mainstream but with some really good writing and a griping "main story", like Firefly had.

Bottom line is that his 'Verse is just too damned good of a setting not to be used on the small screen again.

TOBIS

Monday, October 23, 2006 12:52 PM

Here come more browncoats!

"re-imforcemnets are here, gentleman."

i was a bit dismissve of the tv series when i first saw the promos and must admit to being one of those people responsible for not helping the series get of the ground but after a friend at work got me into the series on DVD, ive been hooked, joss is such a clever writer,

i know heaps of people who love the series and/or the movie, so there is plenty of interest in the public, it just needs a spark. It is extremely sad the show got cancelled and that is the main reason i decided to join this site. the more people vocalize their love of the ff universe, the more chance there is of revival.

a new series would be the best possible outcome, though i like serenity (the film) i dont think it had as much of well crafted style or flow to it as the series.

like the rest of you i love any continuation of the story, there is still so much to be uncovered (ie. the truth behind Book and the Blue Sun group for example)

i actually would love to see a firefly game made that extended the story and the universe, are there any rumours?

long live the browncoats.

I'll take care of me and me and mine, you just be mindful of yours.

AERIALLA

Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:28 PM

I just found Firefly within the past two weeks. The premise of the series didn't catch me until I had nothing to do and rented the series at a video store. I am now totally in love and if that can after after the series ending (what seems like a million years ago) then I think that there is hope. I don't really watch TV unless it's the history channel or Sci-Fi (Go Ghosthunters), but know without a doubt that if Firefly were to ever be resurected from The Black then I would be a faithful viewer.

I think that there is hope on the Sci-Fi channel, they already took one step forward when they ran Firefly to begin with. But I don't see anything happening until Joss is finished with Wonderwoman and the pressure he is getting to finish that. Too many irons in the fire and all that.

Joss was ready to give up Buffy because I trully feel he was done telling what he wanted to tell, I think that happended in the fifth season but they got to move to UPN and money was good so he said why not. I think the same could almost be said about Angel if they would take out the entire season 4.

In other words I don't think that Joss is in any way done with Firefly, he just can't give it all of his attention right now because of other contracts and commitments. Hey it wasn't too late for Star Trek. TNG was better than the first, hopefully it just won't take 5/10 even 20 years to get Joss and the fans what they are clamoring for, a few more rounds.

MALSNARA

Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:21 PM

i am a relatively new browncoat, i live in the uk so i didn't really get a chance to watch Firefly when it was first aired but then i borrowed the dvd series from one of my dads friends...and fell completely head over heels in love with it as soon as i heard the themesong. There is no tv series better than this one and i now own both the series and the BDM, the only dvds i ever bought myself!, That was about a year ago now and i have introduced it to one of my friends so far, with great success and now im going to loan it out to the rest of them. Reluctantly but i will do it, even if it means i cant watch it for a while. I still have the movie, every time i watch it i am struck anew with how much i love it. WE NEED A SEQUEL!

"if your hand touches metal i swear by my pretty floral bonnet i will end you "

VICPERDIDO

Friday, October 27, 2006 5:20 AM

I was one of the unfortunate ones that didnt have a clue of what Firefly was. A buddy turned me on to the dvd series and I could not put them down. Firefly was mega times better than Startrek. Where the problem is who ever was in charge of advertising the series just plain sucked, because I had never heard of it before. Hands down Firefly is better that 99% of the crap on the tube for sure. The brunt of which is stupid cop shows. The time is ripe for a new Firefly series with the same cast and someone with some decent advertising skills to let everyone know that you dont have to sit around and watch dumb flippin Law n order and other stereo type duplicate cop shows. I dont watch that much tv or movies but when I was turned on to Firefly a couple of weeks ago I was rivited to the dvds n watched them as soon as my bud's netflix subscription could send them, which by the way he found them because previous viewers gave them such a high rating on netflix......duh Fox whats that tell you. Wake up and smell the reavers.

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