Janet Jackson's Boob Flash everyone is talking about
POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Saturday, February 21, 2004 18:53
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We understand what you're saying. You are mad because instead of the 'G' rated 'Up With People' extravaganza you expected would be aired during a game broadcast around the world, you got a bump and grind number with Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake.
What we're saying is ... dah! What did you expect.
Sure, it's irritating. Annoying and, in your opinion, obscene. You didn't enjoy having the big suprise jump out of the cake and shake his/her groove thing in the faces of your young un's.
Well, what we're saying is: Our moral standards are fluid. Our definitions hazy. Our expectations low.
I didn't expect Janet's boobie to be broadcast into every house in America. I did however, fully expect anything with Justin Timberlake in it to be wholly lacking in taste or entertainment value.
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Originally posted by gruesome:
I think this may be my last point here as I am apparently NOT getting my point accross clearly...
I *DO NOT* care if there is nudity on television. Skinemax has it all the time. Some of it is even pretty good. But Skinemax also quite clearly LABELS their content and I can quickly and easily KNOW what is appropriate for my family. THATS WHY THERE ARE RATINGS.
G: I completely agree with you! I wouldn't want kids to watch those things *AND* about a hundred other things that the FCC doesn't have rules about, such as the sneaky gratuitous snidey ways that kids and other characters behave, the way they sneak past you with them commercials of their crap. I don't want my kids to see any of those things, but the FCC don't have rules about them.
That is exactly why I preview. Not only because I think the FCC rules will never ban TV ads for kids, and dumb shows with dumb people behaving very dumbly (oh, they call those things TV programs), but b/c my std of interpreting those "guidelines" will be different from what the screeners use, and in turn will be different from yours and every other Joe our there. We have already demonstrated here in our little slice of the world that not all of us have the same rule of thumb for what is acceptable. Even if we agree on what is acceptable, such as no boob. Then there will be different degrees of what no boob is, different shades, different contexts (9 years ago CBS , the very same channel, showed not 1 but 2 full boobies in prime time TV on the program "Chicago Hope". The context was different. Read http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0204a/04jackson.html )
I preview for my kids b/c I am the sole judge and arbitor or what is decent in my household ( ok, I am not a pervert, so I am setting a high bar, not the low bar ). I preview b/c I know that not only is the law probably breakable (and you can fight that), and it is not sufficient (and you might change the law), but it is also not going to guarantee that it agrees with my particular views.
Preview and have some fun.
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Originally posted by gruesome:
The point is NOT whether there was a breast exposed per se. Its the manner in which it was exposed and the context in which it was exposed. Nudity in and of itself is fine and I agree that our culture is somewhat puritannical in that regard. My wife is card carrying la leche league and is QUITE familiar with the ostricization associated with breast feeding. But NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with the SEXUALLY EXPLICIT and even BORDERLINE VIOLENT nature of TEARING A WOMANS CLOTHING OFF.
The rating systems exist NOT to sensor anything, but to give people reasonable guidelines in their decision making about what will contain content that may be inappropriate either for themselves if they choose to feel that way, or more to MY point, that I *DO NOT* want my kids being indoctrinated to the current trends that imply that sex at a VERY young age is not only acceptable but practically ENCOURAGED if you want to be cool.
So, I fall back to my ORIGINAL statement that I find it INSANE that ANYONE couldn't understand WHY I could be MAD about what happened on sunday. The traditions of the superbowl and the very spirit and intent of the rating system was ignored.
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I agree completely with you! Every single word you said. That's exactly my sentiments.
That's why I also preview for my kids. Not only can I determine whether something is objectionable or not. I can also plan strategic moments for lessons or discussions.
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Originally posted by Knibblet:
We understand what you're saying. You are mad because instead of the 'G' rated 'Up With People' extravaganza you expected would be aired during a game broadcast around the world, you got a bump and grind number with Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake.
What we're saying is ... dah! What did you expect.
Sure, it's irritating. Annoying and, in your opinion, obscene. You didn't enjoy having the big suprise jump out of the cake and shake his/her groove thing in the faces of your young un's.
Well, what we're saying is: Our moral standards are fluid. Our definitions hazy. Our expectations low.
I didn't expect Janet's boobie to be broadcast into every house in America. I did however, fully expect anything with Justin Timberlake in it to be wholly lacking in taste or entertainment value.
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BTW, the way KidRock cut the slit in the Stars-n-Stripes and wore it like a stupid poncho on his dumbass? *THAT* chaps my hide.
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Quote:
Originally posted by gruesome:
I think this may be my last point here as I am apparently NOT getting my point accross clearly...
I *DO NOT* care if there is nudity on television. Skinemax has it all the time. Some of it is even pretty good. But Skinemax also quite clearly LABELS their content and I can quickly and easily KNOW what is appropriate for my family. THATS WHY THERE ARE RATINGS.
The point is NOT whether there was a breast exposed per se. Its the manner in which it was exposed and the context in which it was exposed. Nudity in and of itself is fine and I agree that our culture is somewhat puritannical in that regard. My wife is card carrying la leche league and is QUITE familiar with the ostricization associated with breast feeding. But NONE of that has ANYTHING to do with the SEXUALLY EXPLICIT and even BORDERLINE VIOLENT nature of TEARING A WOMANS CLOTHING OFF.
The rating systems exist NOT to sensor anything, but to give people reasonable guidelines in their decision making about what will contain content that may be inappropriate either for themselves if they choose to feel that way, or more to MY point, that I *DO NOT* want my kids being indoctrinated to the current trends that imply that sex at a VERY young age is not only acceptable but practically ENCOURAGED if you want to be cool.
So, I fall back to my ORIGINAL statement that I find it INSANE that ANYONE couldn't understand WHY I could be MAD about what happened on sunday. The traditions of the superbowl and the very spirit and intent of the rating system was ignored.
Sir, I understand what you're trying to say perfectly. I didn't even see the thing on live TV, but I think that it's a disgrace. Justin Timberlake's mewling whine of 'gonna get u nekked by tha end of this song' is in and of itself a disgrace. I think that the boob flash in question was planned; I don't care what Janet Jackson says about it.
Like so many other things on TV, it was flashy sexed-up garbage masquerading as music. Sarah MacLachlan really hit the nail on the head when she said in a recent interview that pop music has become about the selling of a tarted-up image more than about singing or talent. Justin has become a shock-jock sleazemeister and Britney has deteriorated into a sad and rather pathetic attention-grabber (yes, I AM referring to the Madonna kiss and the quickie marriage). Christina Aguilera always did act like a tramp. (Ala the "Genie in a Bottle" song. I loathed that piece of
when it first came out, and I haven't gained any love for it over the years.)These people feel that they have to act in disgusting ways to gain our attention, and I guess they do. It seems that you can become a celebrity idol these days, even if you have no talent whatsoever. Really sad and empty, when you come to think of it.
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G:
Terri Carlin agrees with your view 100%, so much so that she has filed a Federal class action lawsuit.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/7883797.htm
and other mind-numb'ingly kneejerk drastic actions being taken to ... I don't know anymore.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14340-2004Feb4.html
Why don't they cancel all of them crappy kid exploitative commericials and idiotic kid programs while they are at it.
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Gads.
I think I'm going to sue because Old Navy commercials cause me grave injury. Blindness caused by the hideously ugly male models they have in the new ads with the deafening 'amazing annoying adnoidal woman'.
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More fallout...
School in Southern California - Laguna Beach reneg'ed on a contract to allow MTV film there, citing specifically BoobGate.
http://www.thehometownchannel.com/education/2820058/detail.html
In other news. NFL releases their new design for
next year's official NFL SuperBowl nipple shield
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Here's another spot...
http://www.thehilltoponline.com/news/2004/02/06/Sports/Cbs-Eye.Poppin.
Tv-600182.shtml
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"Drama or change the channel? What America wants, better yet needs, is drama. This is a society built on drama. From celebrity gossip to the Department of Homeland Security playing Red Light, Green Light with the Terror Alert Level."
"this was the only year where I didn't want to change the channel during halftime. The dismal halftime shows of previous years sent me searching for something, anything to watch for 15 minutes. ... The big names who performed this year ensured that viewers kept it locked on CBS. Especially after such a (yawn) sleep inducing first half that didn't see the first points until 3:05 left in the second quarter, a Super Bowl record. CBS needed something to breathe life into the spectators who were in attendance and at home."
Don't know if the lack or delay in scoring points is really a record. There have probably been suckier games...
Quote:
"Many of the other Super Bowl commercials seemed conspicuously inappropriate for an event that is a national rite and the kind of rare TV attraction that brings families together in front of the set."
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