What did and didnt you like like about BSG S3.1 and 3.2?
POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Friday, October 20, 2006 01:11
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Originally posted by Calhoun:
Yeah but are those detainees toast? you know.. the ones staring down a firing squad..
I think some will be, perhaps even most. We know the chief's wife got away because Jammer cut her loose & told her to run. We know the former president will survive because she is signed for the whole season & we have seen her in ads for future episodes. I don't think Zarek will die either. He was pulling the president back towards the duece & halfs when the toasters walked up the hill towards them. I think they will both escape & go underground with the resistance.
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I really hope Starbuck isn't falling for Leoben's mindgames - and it wouldn't surprise me if that fall wasn't an accident. He just can't be trusted for a minute and he's sooo creepy!! I do think she's beginning to loose it - hopefully wanting to protect the child, who I doubt is really her daughter, will motivate her to find a way out. That little girl so adorable though, can she how she'd get sucked in, especially with her own mother issues.
I can understand Tigh's motivations - he's such an old warhorse! And they are at war afterall. And he did tell Duck not to go through with it if Baltar wasn't there - but of course Duck was pretty hell bent on it anyway.
Anyone else not fooled for a moment when the 'mysterious source' was revealed to be Gaeta? Although one shot of the hand leaving the documents in the drawer looked oddly dark, like it was someone with black skin, but it was probably just the light.
And I loved how Adama decided to finally trust Sharon - and how he anwsered her question -'I don't, that's what trust is', was just classic Bill. I love that man!!
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Originally posted by werealljustfloating:
Anyone else not fooled for a moment when the 'mysterious source' was revealed to be Gaeta?
There was no one else it could've been, and we've seen that Gaeta is far to good a person to stand by as Baltar's toady.
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I really hope nothing horrible happens to Gaeta once they get back to Galactica. I have a feeling some of them won't be quick to forgive his association with Baltar's Vichy-style government,. But I think his role is very important, without him feeding them info from the inside, the Resistance wouldn't be half as effective, or Tyrol wouldn't have known that Cally was on that list, or where she was being taken to.
I think Sharon and Helo are gonna lose it when they find out Hera is alive. Can't see them trusting Roslin ever again. But I don't remember Adama ever being in on the plan, so I wonder what he'll think when he finds out that Roslin kept it from him.
They're gonna have to open a creche on Galactica, what with Hera, Kasey and baby Nicholas all coming aboard!!
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It's enough.
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I am thinking Gaeta will get a mixed receiption onboard Galactica. So far no one knows he is the mysterious informant who has been feeding them info. Remember the conversation between him and the Chief and how Chief tells him to get of his butt and do something? That to me says the general opinion is that he is some sort of sell out for being Baltar's lackey & working with the Cylons. That of course tells us that Gaeta is clandestine enough to keep his involvement in the information he is filtering to the Resistance secret.
I think Sharon & Helo are going to lose it too. I don't recall Adama being in on Roslin's swapping Hera for the dead infant. Does anyone recall if he was? If he was, then Karen will feel betrayed & then we have tension and a strained relationship dynamic to further the story along. If he wasn't aware of the plot, who is to say that Sharon & Helo will believe he wasn't in on it. It is bound to come to light soon that Hera is alive, especially since # 3 has told Sharon her child is alive. Sharon will not stop until she knows for sure one way or another.
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I just watched the 2 hour season premier last night from my tivo.
I was really disappointed. I felt that overall, it was a bad analogy to the Iraq war.
I thought the suicide bombing part was a complete misrepresentation of what suicide bombing really is. The real atrocity of suicide bombings is that they are taking place in soft/civilian targets, but on the show, they were targeting military targets. Both the psychology and the evil of suicide bombing was completely missed. The whole 'cylons want to live in peace with the humans' was flawed and inane. If that was true, there was no reason to go to New Caprica at all. The humans had not encountered the cylons in over a year and were living on their own...then the Cylons show up, take them over and say they want to live in peace!?! I also felt the humans as police troops was another missed analogy.
The ending of the premier showed the cylons closer to the Nazi's than the American's, and in that case, they can try to claim that it represents other wars, but I felt it was overall just a misguided attempt to criticize America's involvement in the war on terror.
That said, I have been a fan of the show since the miniseries, and I will give it a whilte to try to get back on track.
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I'm thinking that if Gaeta has been smart and canny enough to keep his one-man spy network running, he probably has "credentials" that he can produce when the time for subterfuge ends. Something that'll confirm he's been the mole, and not just a collaborator trying to claim credit.
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Originally posted by patsrule:
I just watched the 2 hour season premier last night from my tivo.
I was really disappointed. I felt that overall, it was a bad analogy to the Iraq war.
I thought the suicide bombing part was a complete misrepresentation of what suicide bombing really is. The real atrocity of suicide bombings is that they are taking place in soft/civilian targets, but on the show, they were targeting military targets. Both the psychology and the evil of suicide bombing was completely missed. The whole 'cylons want to live in peace with the humans' was flawed and inane. If that was true, there was no reason to go to New Caprica at all. The humans had not encountered the cylons in over a year and were living on their own...then the Cylons show up, take them over and say they want to live in peace!?! I also felt the humans as police troops was another missed analogy.
The ending of the premier showed the cylons closer to the Nazi's than the American's, and in that case, they can try to claim that it represents other wars, but I felt it was overall just a misguided attempt to criticize America's involvement in the war on terror.
That said, I have been a fan of the show since the miniseries, and I will give it a whilte to try to get back on track.
Ron Moore has taken a lot of flack frpm some of the fans over this, but he maintains that the new season is not merely a direct allegory for what's going on in Iraq at the moment, but more of a universal story of what people are capable of in war, which is as old as humanity itself.
But thats a good point about the suicide bombers targeting civilian areas in real life, very true, happens in Palestine, Iraq, and even in London last year.
Well I've seen the next episode and it's not quite as on the nose with the Iraq parralels, so that should please you. And once they get back to Galactica there'll be less obvious allegories again. I think the show works best when it's more removed from immediate real world events, although I thought they handled it very well, especially the scene between Baltar and Roslin. Who would have thought Balter could reasonably shame Roslin now after his betrayal has been made public to the humans.
On another note - I loved how Baltar is adament that no-one's been tortured. He always did a have a knack for deceiving himself into believing that horrible things aren't really happening under his nose and even if they were he has nothing to do with it anyway. The first time we meet him in the miniseries, after Six explains who she really is and what's about to go down, all he can say is he had nothing to do with it!! Priceless!
We're still flying.
That's not much.
It's enough.
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Really enjoy this show and the new season. The political stuff, eh. And make no mistake - it's definitely about Iraq, any attempts by R. Moore to deflect or say it's about other occupations is pretty funny and thin imho.
It's really a parlor trick though - we're not cylons and Galactica's crew is definitely not insugents in the present day context, not by any any stretch. So it's just to stir up controversy and gain viewers imho.
Fat Lee! Ha! I laughed so hard, "the weight of command," especially the part where he's trying to enlist his wife's support against the old man while eating some snack treats. 
"CyBuck" lol - so what would happen if little 'Bucky were to die? Would she be downloaded and reborn?
Also - didn't they say there were 9 (?) skinjobs? And we've only seen 6 total? I have a guess as to one of the others if that's true:
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Anders - there's a part in the opener when he and the chief are waiting to get a signal from the orbiting Raptor... when the signal comes in it's pretty high pitched, the chief doesn't seem to mind but Anders has a mini freak, "Turn that down!" Like maybe his machine hearing is ultra sensitive..
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Of the 12 models, we've seen:
#6
#3 (played by Lucy Lawless)
"Sharon Valeri"
"Leoben"
"smarmy-guy-in-a-suit"
"Father *mumblemumble*"
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