PirateNews and Child Porn
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2006 16:42
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Originally posted by rue:
As for snitches, you have to presume they are around. I've always thought there was one person (not Zero) who was and possibly still is a government operative.
Aahh, now I'm intrigued... Well, go on, dish...
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But the heartburn that I have w/ Hero is that if we bow to his implied threat then discussion on a whole range of topics (w/ pix to make a point) grinds to a halt.
Siggy, that is their *entire* purpose, him and several others (not including their sock puppet horde) - to sidetrack, sandbag and otherwise destroy anything resembling intelligent, reasonable discussion.
Go back and look, you'll find thread after thread they've successfully derailed that way, and far too many for coincidence - they're just an advanced form of troll and should be handled appropriately.
Look how fast this thread totalled any rational discussion of the original topic prior to it ? and when finally cornered, they result in nitpicking to drag the discussion out in hopes that people will get bored and frustrated and ditch it, conveniently disposing of the topic they wanted disposed as well.
And over and over, people here fall for it.
Don't take the bait, right-O ?
-Frem
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To understand Foley, Hastert, Gingrinch, Bush, Clinton-Blythe, John Ramsey, and homo pedophile pimp Barney Frank:
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CIA GOP MKULTRA kidnapped call boys Gannon/Gosch tour Bush Sr White House - 70 articles in Washington Times
www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm
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Alright PirateNews, I watched the video and maybe your not bat-shit crazy...
I would have to agree that there is something real fishy about this whole thing. The problem is the Boner kid is just not credible. He has recanted, then recanted his recant, then recanted that recant, and then recanted that recant, etc, etc, etc... It's a good thing the producers of this video found some people with credentials to speak out, otherwise the story is just not plausible.
It's too late to follow your other links tonight, but I will check out the Washington Times articles (even if it is owned by the Moonies) on that prostitution ring in DC. It is interesting (if true) that only the leaders of the ring and not the johns were investigated and that the johns' names were then sealed. If they were diddling underage boys, why would their crimes be ignored? Perhaps, somebody was being protected.
Maybe there is nothing to it, but maybe there is something. I'm no longer willing to dismiss it out of hand, however, so your making progress. Well, I'm off to make a tinfoil hat...
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Alright PirateNews, I watched the video and maybe your not bat-shit crazy...
Oh PN is a bit out-there, cause in my opinion he takes things to extremes, draws conclusions without sufficient evidence, and his presentation leaves much to be desired, but that doesn't mean he's not working from some pretty solid evidence to begin with.
Boner was scared out of his wits, hunted and hounded by both sides, and shortly after DeCamp's book was published, showed up ranting at a hospital, injured and in shock - whereupon they put him in an observation room and conveniently did not observe him one bit till they found him dead, bleeding profusely from the mouth, the next morning.
If I had to guess (and I do, cause there's no autopsy or other info to be had) I would say someone cut out his tongue.
That someone killed him to shut him up adds substantial credibility to his testimony, in my opinion.
There's a whole lot to it, solid facts, case evidence, testimony and arrests.
One fast way to find information is by googling the names of some of the principals of the matter, but as with any information, cross-check and verify before you accept.
I know quite a bit about this matter too, if you want a less melodramatic information source.
-Frem
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Well, I'm kind of waiting here for BigDamnNobody to make his case about my hypocracy. (taps foot, sighs) I'll give it...oh, about a day... after that I figure BDN just officially lost 10 credibility points out of 100. When he gets to zero I'll just ignore him.
BDN, the floor is yours...
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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, I'm kind of waiting here for BigDamnNobody to make his case about my hypocracy. (taps foot, sighs) I'll give it...oh, about a day... after that I figure BDN just officially lost 10 credibility points out of 100. When he gets to zero I'll just ignore him.
BDN, the floor is yours...
Because you asked so nicely. The quotes have been lifted chronologically from this thread and each one is followed by what I think it is.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
So we have someone on-board (Hero) who will defend to the death the right of an adult to "groom" and harass the underaged but who will inform the FBI about posted pix.
Nice.
Hypocritical, but nice.
Straw man.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I have NEVER trusted Hero. He horn-dogs after war widows, can barely smother the rage against his ex and her boyfriend, and likes to intimidate people. He's the perfectly noxious combination of fear and bullying. But altho Hero has been exposed as a Alliance mole, I don't intend to pay it any mind.
Ad hominem.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hero- IMHO altho what PN posted was disturbing in my view it was not "obscene". The only emotions it aroused in me was horror and pity. But what you saw in the picture was what you brought to it: an inability to deal with sexual relations from anything other than a position of intimidation. I haven't forgotten about the time you "joked" (yeah, ha ha) about calling in Homeland Security on your ex's new boyfriend and having him rousted at 2 AM. You give breaks to Marines but throw the book at a mentally retarded kid. You use the law for your personal power. This is just another one of those little games that you like to play.
I'm not fooled by your sanctimonious mouthings. You're a pervert in the making, if you aren't already one.
Ad hominem.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't know what planet you're living on. Hero, as far as I'm concerned you're on some kind of kinky personal power trip, and you abuse your job. I knew someone like you. The DOJ was very interested in him.
Ad hominem.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
You know, I hate to be PirateNews-ish but I am wondering about the GOP now.
Rush Limbaugh, caught with a bunch of non-prescription Viagra after a trip to (noted child prostitution destination) Dominican Republic. Abramoff and DeLay protecting (noted child prostitution destination) Mariana Islands.
Does the GOP have a thing for child prostitutes, or are they just general bottom-feeders, congregating wherever misery is at its worst?
Topic change.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey HERO, is this someone you know?Quote:
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) -- A city prosecutor was charged with indecency after a security camera caught him walking around naked in a government building after business hours.
Scott Blauvelt, 35, was arrested Monday and charged with two counts of indecency. He was released from jail to await a hearing in the court where he usually works.
A guard monitoring a security camera spotted a nude man -- whom investigators identified as Blauvelt -- in a building that houses county offices the night of October 5, sheriff's Maj. Anthony Dwyer said. The night before, security video had captured Blauvelt naked in another area of the building, where city offices are located, Dwyer said.
Dwyer said investigators don't know why Blauvelt, who was alone, wasn't wearing clothes. He faces a month in jail and a $250 fine if convicted.
Blauvelt's lawyer, Michael Gmoser, said in a statement Tuesday that his client was seriously injured in a 2005 car accident, suffers from mental illness and is on medication for seizures.
Really weird topic change.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
THIS is obscene!Quote:
War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.
Mild topic cha
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Ahhh ... end of the day, end of the week ... You know, I actually went through your long list point by point, and then I realized that you had taken every single post out of context. It was especially egregious when those posts were a DIRECT response to a previous post.
Quote:was a direct and relevant response to Zero's posts on another thread.
So we have someone on-board (Hero) who will defend to the death the right of an adult to "groom" ......
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=24469
Quote:was in DIRECT response to the posting immediately above
I have NEVER trusted Hero. ...
MISBEHAVEN
I don't trust Hero now, and I never will after this.
Quote:Was in DIRECT reply to the ad hominem attack Zero posted immediately above
Hero- IMHO altho what PN posted was disturbing in my view it was not "obscene". ...
ZERO
So for you child porn is ok. But our political differences are the real evil. Thats why you liberals are so dangerous.
Quote:Was responding to changes in topic introduced here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:47, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:04, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:10, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:11, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:16, here => Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 11:19, here => Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:31, here => Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:27, ...
You know, I hate to be PirateNews-ish but ...
Oh crap. I'm not even halfway through the thread. This is taking too long.
Meanwhile, I brought up the statute with the definition of child porn FIVE times, looking for clarity. You see, the photo does not appear to meet the standard. But Zero slunk away from a substantive discussion.
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FELLOWTRAVELER
Alright PirateNews, I watched the video and maybe your not bat-shit crazy...
I never waste my time discussing topics without researching them first. Life's too short.
Google "The Franklin Coverup", by GOP CIA Senator John deCamp who won 2 million-dollar lawsuits for himself and Paul Bonnaci, and helped arrest and convict GOP "National Anthem" singer and pedophile pimp Larry King for $40-million bank robbery. Better yet, buy the book from amazon.com. Then READ it, STUDY it, LEARN from it, as if your family's lives depended on it.
DeCamp is now lecturing that when Bush sr raped these little boys, "they were never seen again", implying Bush sr murdered them, or had them murdered, to shut them up.
Just like Bush Jr did this week to a 9/11 Truth webmaster on South Park on prime-time TV:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8339201394200451031&hl=en
http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/southpark911short.wmv
"South Park Republicans..." HA!
Then watch Cathy O'Brien's lectures on being raped and tortured by Bush Sr, Cheney and Hillary Clinton, and hunted at gunpoint by Cheney and Bush in The Most Dangerous Game:
www.piratenews.org/video-archive.html
O'Brien and her lobotomized daughter Kelly, tortured by CIA MKULTRA, are Joss' composite characters for River Tam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRA
If Joss is allowed to continue the Serenity story, I'm sure he'll delve more deeply into MKULTRA's bag of mind-kontrol tricks.
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Hey Rue,
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Originally posted by rue:
Ahhh ... end of the day, end of the week ... You know, I actually went through your long list point by point, and then I realized that you had taken every single post out of context.
I was unaware that context had anything to do with questionable debate tactics. Any attack on your opponents character is ad hominem. Any misrepresentation of your opponents argument is straw man.
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It was especially egregious when those posts were a DIRECT response to a previous post.Quote:was a direct and relevant response to Zero's posts on another thread.
So we have someone on-board (Hero) who will defend to the death the right of an adult to "groom" ......
So perhaps the response should have been made in the relevant thread.
That doesn't change the fact that it was still a straw man argument. Hero may have been defending the action's of the GOP regarding the Foley scandal but he never defended the right of an adult to commit indecent acts with a minor.
Quote:Quote:was in DIRECT response to the posting immediately above
I have NEVER trusted Hero. ...
MISBEHAVEN
I don't trust Hero now, and I never will after this.Quote:Was in DIRECT reply to the ad hominem attack Zero posted immediately above
Hero- IMHO altho what PN posted was disturbing in my view it was not "obscene". ...
ZERO
So for you child porn is ok. But our political differences are the real evil. Thats why you liberals are so dangerous.
So ad hominem attacks are okay as long as you invoke the ultimate defense of... He started it? What's wrong with taking the higher road?
Quote:Quote:Was responding to changes in topic introduced here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 12:47, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:04, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:10, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:11, here => Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 14:16, here => Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 11:19, here => Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:31, here => Monday, October 09, 2006 - 09:27, ...
You know, I hate to be PirateNews-ish but ...
Hey, topic changes are fine in my book, it seems like every thread goes through multiple. That's why I would never post my dislike of topic changes in another thread. Is it not reasonable to expect a Poster to live up to their own lofty ideals. Especially after lamenting the lack of those same ideals in other Posters.
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Oh crap. I'm not even halfway through the thread. This is taking too long.
That was a nice attempt Rue, and I'm sure SignyM is very appreciative of your efforts.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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