PirateNews and Child Porn
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2006 16:42
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Originally posted by SignyM:
As far as the Utah judge... there may have been other things about the pix that raised red flags...
They allow photography in Utah? Who knew?
The important thing is we all know Hero will call the feds. No matter the circumstances, that's valuable information. Now, I don't think that makes him a stoolie, as he does work for the man and that's an meaningful distinction in my mind. And I guess we'll find out if its child porn or not if PirateNews gets pinched...
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey HERO, is this someone you know?
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) -- A city prosecutor was charged with indecency after a security camera caught him walking around naked in a government building after business hours.
Scott Blauvelt, 35, was arrested Monday and charged with two counts of indecency. He was released from jail to await a hearing in the court where he usually works.
Ha! Now we know Hero's name. He ratted to the feds in a futile attempt to save his own skin...
My brother defended a case of a prosecutor attacking a nekked hiker during a "citizen's arrest". It seemed the prosecutor likes to tackle nekked men in public. Defendant defended himself by punching the prosecutor repeatedly in the face. The defendant won that case, and was billed $10,000 in champaigne. Note that the Bush Gang, "Dick" Cheney, Bill Clinton Blythe and 3,000 other world dictators do the same thing, walking around nekked at Bohemian Grove homosexual nudist compound. So an Equal Protection under the Constitution defense would apply.
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Noreen Gosch
The Johnny Gosch Foundation
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October 11, 2006
To all the viewers of my website... If this were your child wouldn't you want to know why the police and FBI are not investigating? That is a crime upon a crime.
This is a SECOND PHOTO of Johnny ... bound and gagged received recently. We now know that neither the police nor the FBI ever contacted the website owner of www.Jacobstales.com where the first photo of Johnny appeared.
Thank you for all your help. Everyone who has stepped forward in prayer, thought, and deed. I am deeply grateful.
Click johnnygosch.com to view the NEW photo of Bush White House "Correspondent" Jeff Gannon bound and gagged, just like the rest of the Manchurian Media Mafia.
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Does this mean that we can't post disturbing (but non graphic) pix of real-life child abuse because somebody like Hero "might" think it's child porn?
I think that if your going to post those pictures, be prepared for someone to think they are child porn. Its like playing with fire or walking on ice...bad things might happen which is why such things are generally avoided.
If you or PN post such pictures, be prepared for the response those pictures should and often do generate. Even pure intentions may not protect you, since intent is not as much of a factor here as in other cases. Its like speeding. Sure, you were just going about your otherwise legitimate business, but if you go too fast and get caught, its not the cop's fault and your intentions don't matter (although, unlike this instance, citations are within officer discretion, reporting suspected child porn is mandatory).
H
Here's the problem with Hero: he doesn't comprehend THE LAW. He certainly has no concept of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which his hero Jr Bush claims "is just a GD piece of paper".
The First Amendment allows for redress of grievances against Gangsta Govt. This kidnapping was perped by gangsters in govt, led by the Bush Sr White House (established in 1980). It's never a crime to report a crime, which is why I publish those photos, and why the mother of the victim publishes those photos. Any arrest for "the crime of reporting a crime" is a false arrest, and any such defendant has the legal right to self defense from false arrest, including lawful use of deadly force and justifiable homicide against copsters, and may make citizen's arrests of any criminal (aka "Hero") who files such a frivolous complaint.
In point of fact, "speeding" in never a "crime", since there's no victim, no property damage, no injured party. Nor is it a "breach of the peace", since it's merely normal, safe driving.
Even Uncle Scam admits in official research reports that "speeding" IS SIX TIMES SAFER than driving a "posted speed limit":
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American Autobahn
by Mark Rask
www.AmericanAutobahn.com
On a 70 mph freeway, the average state trooper of the day did not pull people over until they were over 80, or in some cases, 85 mph. This put the 'speeder' well over that number.
The first major study to be published was 'Accidents on Main Rural Highways Related to Speed, Driver, and Vehicle' by David Soloman in 1964. Analyzing the accident/speed relationship from a substantial body of information collected in eleven states, Soloman's study reveiwed the accident records of almost 10,000 drivers, and included interviews with 290,000 other motorists who used the roads studied in his report. Looking at two- and four-lane, noninterstate highways, the study produced conclusions that:
Accident involvements 'were highest at very low speeds, lowest at about the average speed of all traffic.'
'Drivers of passenger cars having low horsepower had higher involvement rates than drivers of cars having high horsepower.'
"Drivers just above the mean speed had the lowest involvement rate. These findings confirmed the practice of traffic engineers setting speed limits at the 85th-percentile mark."
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Every person has a Constitutionally guaranteed right to travel (when "not for hire"), which includes the standard mode of conveyance (driving a car). People always died on horseback and riding in horse buggies, but there was NEVER a "license" for "horse driv
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Well Hero, I noticed that you slunk past my list of "potential child porn". You know what? You've got to give law enforcement SOME credit for knowing the difference between child porn and news photos. Heck, if they can't arrest John Karr and they're not certain if Foley broke a law, do you think PN's pix will raise any eyebrows? The only question that might be raised is about YOU.
So you can go ahead and blow me in to the FBI if your short hairs get frizzled by one of my posts... it's not like it hasn't happened to me before.
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Quote:What I wish Zero had posted was something more accurate, meaningful, and useful.
Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
The important thing is we all know Hero will call the feds. No matter the circumstances, that's valuable information. Now, I don't think that makes him a stoolie, as he does work for the man and that's an meaningful distinction in my mind. And I guess we'll find out if its child porn or not if PirateNews gets pinched...
AFAIK he delibertately edited the relevant portions of the statute and mis-stated the contents. As many times as I've cited the text, he has failed to address it. If we are going to learn anything useful, it would be nice if he could put aside his ego issues (among his many issues) and give us the straight dope about what is and isn't kiddie porn.
As for snitches, you have to presume they are around. I've always thought there was one person (not Zero) who was and possibly still is a government operative.
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Quote:Huh, I have relatives near Ithaca. Heck, I've driven thru that area! I'd better stay out of THOSE courts!
a 76-year-old Elmira man who contested a speeding ticket in Newfield, outside Ithaca, was jailed without even a warning for three days in 2003 because he called the sheriff’s deputy a liar.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:
a 76-year-old Elmira man who contested a speeding ticket in Newfield, outside Ithaca, was jailed without even a warning for three days in 2003 because he called the sheriff’s deputy a liar.
Huh, I have relatives near Ithaca. Heck, I've driven thru that area! I'd better stay out of THOSE courts!
Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.
It's that way everywhere, no matter if the judge is a licensed lawyer or not. Even licensed lawyers are arrested and convicted for masturbating in court using peter pumps during trials.
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I walked away without a 110mph speed ticket last month, when one of the copsters thought they recognized me as a biker buddy. Good thing I left my helmet on, and just played along. Sneaky copsters were driving a BLACK patrol car (not unmarked undercover), to better hide in the dark. But I was videotaping for a DVD project, so I had to go riding that day. Got the whole discussion on hidden videotape, with the cop driving away without sueing me for alleged breach of civil driver license contract. It was weird, since the cops acted scared of me (I get that a lot), and were glad they didn't have to write a ticket or make an arrest, tho perhaps that was just because they always feel so guilty for robbing people at gunpoint.
It's been 20 years since I last talked my way out of a 110mph ticket in USA, but in Germany, it was legal to drive 130mph for hours nonstop in heavy traffic.
Mainly I just hunker in my bunker, now that USA is in a current Civil War, with roving Death Squads performing 500 summary executions every year during service of process for civil traffic ticket lawsuits. Here in Blount County, cops just perform summary executions of "speeding" bikers, without bothering to make any attempt at a traffic stop, even when they murder cops riding their bikes to work at the jail. Blount County, Knox County and Tennessee legislature named Interstate I-140 for a convicted hit-and-run killer of a biker tourist.
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Originally posted by rue:
AFAIK he delibertately edited the relevant portions of the statute and mis-stated the contents.
Not sure how it was edited. I 'cut and pasted' portions of the text rather then simply pasting large sections of legal language that were not relevant to the discussion.
If you can show that the actual law says something different then do it. Quote what I wrote and what the law says side by side and show us. For the record, I got my quotes off Finlaw...I'll doublecheck on Casemaker and Westlaw since those are the two services I normally use. If I find that I was wrong, I'll issue a correction...I doubt your capable of doing the same.
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You left out the requirement that says it MUST be graphic or lascivious to be porn. I quoted the entire section here: Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 16:57, and quoted or referenced that specific portion here Tuesday October 10 2006 - 06:40, here Tuesday October 10 2006 - 10:53, here Wednesday October 11 2006 - 06:39, and here Wednesday October 11 2006 - 14:52.
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