PirateNews and Child Porn
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2006 16:42
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Does this mean that we can't post disturbing (but non graphic) pix of real-life child abuse because somebody like Hero "might" think it's child porn?
I think that if your going to post those pictures, be prepared for someone to think they are child porn. Its like playing with fire or walking on ice...bad things might happen which is why such things are generally avoided.
If you or PN post such pictures, be prepared for the response those pictures should and often do generate. Even pure intentions may not protect you, since intent is not as much of a factor here as in other cases. Its like speeding. Sure, you were just going about your otherwise legitimate business, but if you go too fast and get caught, its not the cop's fault and your intentions don't matter (although, unlike this instance, citations are within officer discretion, reporting suspected child porn is mandatory).
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Just out of curiosity, would you mind speculating about whether you would've done the same things if you weren't a lawyer?
I don't know the answer to that. I'd like to say yes, but who knows?
I've also prosecuted several cases recently, a diddler, a weenie wagger (both technical legal terms), a Mom who thought pictures of her kid having sex with grown men was ok, and a 'sex with the hot neighbor' case. So I may be hypersensitive to the topic.
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Quote:Hero-I would take action if I thought the pix represented real, ongoing, and preventable child abuse whether or not it was pornography. For example, pix that came to me secretively of a child being beaten- possibly real-life, current, and within the reach of USA law- would definitely warrant action. Or if the picture came to me with the line "give me your credit card number to see more". Let me toss some examples at you for you view on whether or not it's "pornography"
I think that if your going to post those pictures, be prepared for someone to think they are child porn. Its like playing with fire or walking on ice...bad things might happen which is why such things are generally avoided.
A naked and burned Vietnamese girl running away from her napalmed village.
A traumatized girl screaming into the arms of her mother just after genital mutilation.
A child dying of starvation, with the vultures waiting in the background.
Children working, shackled, to carpet-weaving looms.
Fully-clothed children waiting for clients in a brothel.
Sometimes LIFE is obscene.
As far as the Utah judge... there may have been other things about the pix that raised red flags, such as simulated but fully-clothed sex. Or perhaps the judge is twitchier than most. As the ads always say: Your results may vary.
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Zero,
"nudity not required" The definition is 'graphic or lascivious. Must meet the 'lascivious' requirement.
PS You're spending an awful lot of time looking up one case (from Utah) trying to rationalize yourself.
And I too am curious about your reponse to SignyM's list. They are all photos (some Pulitzer prize-winning) that I've seen in magazines and newspapers.
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I do not approve child abuse and exploitation or of people profiting from it after the fact. If I thought that's what was happening here I would have done something about it.
But the heartburn that I have w/ Hero is that if we bow to his implied threat then discussion on a whole range of topics (w/ pix to make a point) grinds to a halt. The topic of child exploitation, exploitation, poverty and injustice IN GENERAL are the bread and butter of our discussions in the RWE forum.
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Hey HERO, is this someone you know?
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HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) -- A city prosecutor was charged with indecency after a security camera caught him walking around naked in a government building after business hours.
Scott Blauvelt, 35, was arrested Monday and charged with two counts of indecency. He was released from jail to await a hearing in the court where he usually works.
A guard monitoring a security camera spotted a nude man -- whom investigators identified as Blauvelt -- in a building that houses county offices the night of October 5, sheriff's Maj. Anthony Dwyer said. The night before, security video had captured Blauvelt naked in another area of the building, where city offices are located, Dwyer said.
Dwyer said investigators don't know why Blauvelt, who was alone, wasn't wearing clothes. He faces a month in jail and a $250 fine if convicted.
Blauvelt's lawyer, Michael Gmoser, said in a statement Tuesday that his client was seriously injured in a 2005 car accident, suffers from mental illness and is on medication for seizures.
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why you crazy americans !
shoot the moon ...shoooooot the mooon
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THIS is obscene!
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War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
THIS is obscene!Quote:
War has wiped out about 655,000 Iraqis or more than 500 people a day since the U.S.-led invasion, a new study reports.
do you honestly think the american media are gonna tell their public what a fuck up bush and his daddies gang have made of this iraqi ethinic cleanse gone wrong?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hey HERO, is this someone you know?
HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) -- A city prosecutor was charged with indecency after a security camera caught him walking around naked in a government building after business hours.
Scott Blauvelt, 35, was arrested Monday and charged with two counts of indecency. He was released from jail to await a hearing in the court where he usually works.
Sorry, not anywhere near Hamilton and not someone I remember from lawschool...although I mught not recognize him sense we tended to wear clothes to class.
Read the article though and laughed...its ok to laugh at people who break the law, I laugh at them everyday.
H
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