New to Firefly and have some questions

POSTED BY: KingofallLondinum
UPDATED: Monday, October 9, 2006 02:00
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ECGORDON

Thursday, August 10, 2006 5:34 AM

I apologize for the way I worded that statement originally. I'm sure there are a lot of people who totally love everything Joss has done and are not lying about that fact. I love Buffy, Angel and Firefly, with Firefly being my favorite, but even it is not perfect. I have seen evidence of a lot of people talking differently about the movie now than they did after they first saw it, and I'm one of them. But my bet would be that the majority still like the series more than the film, and that is due to one or more elements of the film they felt didn't jive with the series, either continuity wise or in terms of character development or character interaction. In any case, I would hope we can have disagreements about specific things in the movie (or series) but still consider ourselves fellow Browncoats.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

CAVALIER

Sunday, October 8, 2006 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by CarolJude:
The Tams reminded me of the parents of a good friend of mine. Very wealthy and very into presenting exactly the perfect image of themselves to everyone. River's comment about 'meddling' at the beginning of the BDM made me think of my friend, who was quite outspoken and curious about everything (although no genius, as he himself would admit ;) From my own instincts and evidenced not at all in the show, I got the impression that River was the type of teenager who made her parents nervous - not the typical 'riding in cars with boys' sort of thing, but the type that might start an argument at a dinner party with a distinguished guest, ask too many questions, make waves. I think they were thrilled to have a place to send her away to, away from their carefully constructed world. That they could probably brag to their friends about their brilliant daughter being in a special Alliance school was a nice perk as well. The way they refused to consider Simon's fears and discoveries speaks to their desire to hold onto their life of wealth and prestige at all cost. Mr. Tam pretty much disowning Simon over trying to )escue her pretty much proves it. Imagine taking issue with your child for attempting to save the life of your other child...

The rest? I dunno. Everything everyone's said sounds plausible.

Walk tall, or don't walk at all...

It occurs to me to wonder if there was, at that time, any reason to worry except the letters Simon had received from River. Simon saw a coded message in them, although they must have been censored by the Academy. The censor obviously did not see a message in them, or he would not have passed them. Perhaps is should not be that surprising that when Regan and Gabriel read them they did not see the message either.

River wrote the message so that it could only be understood by her brother, the person who knew her best.

If she could do that, she could certainly write a message that would scare Simon to death, without worrying anyone else, and I wonder if that is what Regan and Gabriel thought had happened.

They may have thought that River was playing a (cruel) joke on Simon.

INTERL0PER

Monday, October 9, 2006 12:50 AM

Welcome! I too am a freshly minted Browncoat, it's great to see so many joining the cause :D Each time I have watched Safe, I have come away with the same impression CarolJude gave; the Tams were too preoccupied with keeping their lives uncomplicated and possibly maintaining their status and connections with the social elite. If you stop to think about it, aren't there a lot of us that if we're honest with ourselves want to keep things simple and not get tangled up in the ugliness of the world around us, even when the stakes are high? I was looking last week during my latest viewing for that "conspiratorial" thing, but I just didn't come away with that.
Keep Flyin'!

THOLO

Monday, October 9, 2006 1:22 AM

The book helps too.

Keep Flying!!

RMMC

Monday, October 9, 2006 1:41 AM

All hail, KingofallLondinum!!

Sorry...I just had to do that.

Welcome to our bit of the 'verse! Let me offer you an Irish whiskey to sip, if you've a mind to.

Wow...good questions. For the Tams I've always seen them as the 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil' types. They wouldn't see the truth even it it ate half their leg, because they didn't want to. If they believed River was being hurt, then they'd be having to ask some uncomfortable questions about the government. The same government they just whole heartedly supported in a war. After seeing what happened to the browncoats, they were certainly not going to start throwing stones.

The thing I really wonder about is why, since River was incredibly intelligent (kind of a once in a few hundred years type intelligent) did the government waste that intelligence by experimenting on it? Wouldn't you think they'd use someone smart, but not mindboggling intelligent? It's like using DaVinci as a lab rat.

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"Captain don't want 'em."
"Jayne, we're robbing the place, we're not occupying it."

WALKERHOUND

Monday, October 9, 2006 1:41 AM

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Originally posted by RimGirl:
Re: The Tams I vote nefarious. If you had any doubt at all about the safety of your child, wouldn't you try to see her? And being refused, wouldn't all your warning signals go off?B]

ya you should be willing to try anything for the safety of your child or to put it another way risqué anything. but what if that means you have to risqué another child to try and save the first one?

i've always said my take on the tam 'rent's was fear. thay had lost one child (when thay realized something was fishy i have no idea) and thay were getting ready to loss the other one.
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NOTYOLANDA

Monday, October 9, 2006 2:00 AM

Hi,
Welcome to the Firefly 'verse.
For your question number 2, the antiaging drug would make sense with Inara's reaction to Mal talking about having an whole bunch of children in the Mrs. Reynolds episode. She gets really upset at the topic. If she is really old, she can't have children. If he wants them, she can't be with him. Elaine

Please! Nobody died last time!

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