PirateNews and Child Porn

POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Thursday, December 7, 2006 16:42
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Originally posted by AURaptor:




Didn't see that post, so I can't discuss as to what was posted. However 1 question I do have....

Why does a Dem Congressman ( Gerry Studds ) admit to having sex w/ a 17 yr old male page,

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Operative word is ADMIT. He admitted it. He didn't lie and he didn't cover it up. No one expects sainthood. But is it too freakin much to ask that those in power take responsibility for their own stupidity? I think not.


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Huh. Well, since Rainman didn't see the picture everything he says is irrelevamt.

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Not true. I get the gist with the descriptions of the pics earlier in this thread. Why even post pics that come close to being child porn? Children tied up in vulnerable poses etc..? There is no place on a Sci-Fi board for that nonsense. That some of you have become myopic, most likely the result of your one-sided political circle jerk threads, is really sad. Just think... I have to point this out. And whats with you retards always posting that another's opinion is irrelevant just because it is opposite of your own? So go take the block of cheese out of your ass and feed it to your mother. Well, it's her fault your an asshole....Well, it's true........

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Canker sore-

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Wow, looky what I missed. Child porn, posters sticking up for PN, Ruse's venomous drivel. What a week you freaks have had. RWers, you should be very proud, you have outdone your selves. If it looks like child porn, smells like child porn...It can probably be found in rue's purse. I don't recall the photos, but I would think it's better to be safe than sorry. Hero did what he thought was right. It's nice to see someone with conviction on this board. Why defend child porn just because Hero pointed it out? You sick crooked pecker retards, you disgust me. Well, it's true......

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This is SOOoo off-track it's hilarious! Do you have any more? Well, it's true ..

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AUwipe:

"Why does a Dem Congressman ( Gerry Studds ) admit to having sex w/ a 17 yr old male page"

Do you even know how to read? This was addressed MULTIPLE times. TWO congressmen were censured - a democrate (Studds) and a republican (Crane).

The male page Studds had an affair with in 1973 was of the age of consent, at that time 17. No laws were broken. Crane, the republican had sex with an underage female page. He was charged and plead guilty.

Maybe you need to get you head out of your butt and smell some fresh air.

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Originally posted by rue:
Canker sore-

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Wow, looky what I missed. Child porn, posters sticking up for PN, Ruse's venomous drivel. What a week you freaks have had. RWers, you should be very proud, you have outdone your selves. If it looks like child porn, smells like child porn...It can probably be found in rue's purse. I don't recall the photos, but I would think it's better to be safe than sorry. Hero did what he thought was right. It's nice to see someone with conviction on this board. Why defend child porn just because Hero pointed it out? You sick crooked pecker retards, you disgust me. Well, it's true......

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This is SOOoo off-track it's hilarious! Do you have any more? Well, it's true ..

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Ruse, there's always more where that came from..I have a huge ass

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HUH ???

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Any sane definition of pornography has to include an assessment of the lascivious intent behind it. Otherwise, we end up defining what is appropriate by some viewer's willingness to sexualize the images in question. The very same reasoning bans Shakespeare and condemns women who have been raped for wearing "provocative" clothing. Next stop, Burqaville.

Anyone here believe a picture of a fully clothed grown man bound and gagged to be pornographic? Then why pictures of teenagers so bound? What is it about helplessness in children that makes an image sexual?

What about a woman bound and gagged? Howabout a "pretty" woman bound and gagged?

And just to be clear: I got no problem if Haken wants to remove images from his website that he finds too disturbing, but "disturbing" doesn't equal "porn."

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It looks to me like there are a couple of different things going on here.

The first is what does US law consider pornography? Well, that's where the information Hero posted can be valuable. Whether or not I agree with the law, the law of the land is the law of the land. Part of advanced democracy is acquainting ourselves with the statutes so that a) we don't unwittingly violate them b) we identify that which we think is less smart and a potential candidate for revision.

A second part is whether or not it should be reported to the FBI. For myself, personally, I wouldn't have. While I can see how pictures that PN has posted could be construed as pornography under the letter of the law I don't think that PN took the photos or is distributing them as pornography. In other words, I see them as historic artifacts that are disturbing but not, in my opinion, pornographic. Although, in this instance, I am sympathetic to Hero's position. He is an employee of the court and has to adhere to an additional set of protocols that may seem at cross purposes to common sense. Acting on a strict literal interpretation of what is or isn't pornography, given his set of additional constraints, is in his best career interests.

To kind of sum up, I'm happy that Hero actually cited something accurately. This is a step in the right direction, in my opinion. It's a far cry from using Drudge or the latest GOP talking points as a source. So, kudos Hero. Remember, the truth will set you free. I'm sad that the FBI got dragged into all this. They have better ways to spend their time.

Although, as has been noted by others, I wish that the Republican House leadership had shown a similar level of diligance with respect to Representative Foley. If they had, he would've been gone many many years ago.

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Originally posted by rue:

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
I've found that even scrolling or page downing through PN's posts, I've seen far more than I ever wanted to see.

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I guess my eyes are worse than I thought. There is no way I could see anything unless I took the time to focus on it. I'm impressed you can see stuff simply going past it. You'd probably be wicked in a raquet sport.

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Well, there's a big difference between identifying something and actually doing anything about it . I am proud of my ability to recognize and make sense of visual information at a rapid pace. However, I am sorely lacking when it comes to actually responding physically to that visual information.

In other words, I suck at tennis.

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The Foley scandal, resignation and "criminal investigation by FBI" coincidentally was "leaked" (after how many years?) to take the media attention off the new Gosch/Gannon kidnappings photos, which lead straight to the Bush Family White House... So Foley gets to play the fall guy, without fear of indictment or arrest, just like his fellow rump-ranger Karl Rove.

Now it's reported worldwide that House speaker Hastert is a homosexual pedophile, which explains why he had no problem with Foley doing the same. Excellent blackmail to control the votes in Congress to benefit the Bush Gang.

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"There is also much focus on the relationship between House Speaker Dennis Hastert and his chief of staff, 56-year old Scott Palmer. Hastert and Palmer, Hastert's longtime unmarried adviser, live together in a DC townhouse along with Hastert's Deputy Chief of Staff, Mike Stokke, while Hastert's wife Jean lives in Yorkville, Illinois and stays at a hotel when she visits Washington. WMR's State Department sources have also reported that the visits of Hastert and other congressional leaders and staff members to certain Southeast Asian nations and the Northern Marianas should come under the scrutiny of the House Ethics Committee, now officially investigating "Pagegate." The Northern Marianas became infamous in the scandals involving Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff because of the presence in the US slave labor territory of Asian children being used as prostitutes. Conveniently, Foley co-chaired the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, which would have had authority to investigate charges of child prostitution in the Northern Marianas. Our State Department sources report that it is no secret that a number of U.S. Foreign Service officers working out of the U.S. embassies in Bangkok, Phnom Penh, Hanoi, and Manila have been involved with underage nationals of the host countries where they are assigned. In fact, many have rotated their assignments between countries that look sideways at child prostitution and sex between adults and minors. In fact, John Mark Karr, as previously reported by WMR, was quickly whisked out of Bangkok after his arrest on pedophilia charges. The U.S. Embassy in Bangkok, working with the CIA and Department of Homeland Security, arranged for Karr's quick departure from Bangkok on a business class flight to the United States, where all charges, including those stemming from Karr's 'admission' that he killed JonBenet Ramsey and child porn charges, were later dropped. WMR has learned that Karr may have been aware of the identities of top U.S. officials in the child sex trade in Thailand and that he was sprung from Thai authorities to prevent him from testifying in a Thai courtroom. Hastert visited Vietnam, along with Palmer, in April of this year and spent three days in the country. Hastert, along with Illinois GOP Rep. Ray LaHood, canceled a visit to Thailand and Vietnam in January 2006. Hastert was also in Thailand in January 2002."
-Wayne Madsen (National Security Agency), www.WayneMadsenReport.com, October 9, 2006

JonBenet Ramsey: CIA's Electroshocked Mind-Controlled Sex Slave
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=801019
75&blogID=160906152

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Hero, I do have a history with FBI, after successfully working with White House, US Justice Dept, FBI, local police and prosecutors to arrest and convict a homosexual drug-dealing CIA hitman pedophile rapist with a false passport, for kidnapping and murder:
www.piratenews.org/how-to-catch-a-govt-hitman.html

I also have a history of spanking the FBI, forcing its local office to remove a portrait of J. Edgar Hoover, the homosexual transvestite pervert who alleged "there's no such thing as the Italian Mafia", who assassinated Dr Martin Luther King Jr (according to front page banner headline in Knoxville News Sentinel during US House committee herings on JFK/MLK murders in 1978).
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/9718.php

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