What's wrong with Star Trek Voyager, and Enterprise?
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I enjoyed Voyager likely because there was a woman Captain and she was willing to shoot first.
Never cared much for Enterprise, I especially hated the theme. Only good part of Enterprise was seen some fine looking men with their shirts off.
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For me, personally, Voyager and Enterprise just didn't have the same spark as the earlier shows. The whole show backstory became too bloated and complicated, and everything just became too safe, even when the crews were supposed to be in mortal danger!
Both shows had their moments, but there simply weren't enough to make me enjoy the show. And I never felt the same about the characters as I did with the earlier shows. I cared about Spock and Scotty and Worf and Picard and Odo and Kira. I just didn't care about any of the Voyager or Enterprise characters.
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I liked Enterprise a lot! I mean, I liked the first season and the last. The Xindi arc and Temporal Cold War was terrible. Trek had so many interesting aliens already, I didn't think it was necessary to create a whole new race that had never been seen before in the Trek 'verse.
The episodes I liked explored the origins of the Vulcan, Klingon, Andorians, and Romulans first interactions with humans. I also thought the mirror universe episodes at the end were awesome!
I watched the show from beginning to end - and just when it was starting to get good again, they axed it!
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One of the things about ST that kills it for me is the lack of development that is often built in. I have heard that in the ST:NG bible there was supposed to be a statement that a person watching only the first ep and the last should not be lost. In other words, no characters grow and plots never get fully resolved. So Troi and Ryker still had the hots for each other but were over it but weren't. When the Borg decimated the entire Starfleet no enemies capitalize on it, etc. And no one EVER gets promoted and leaves the ship.
Another thing that kills it for me is that we always see the universe from the pov of a military ship. There is a vast unexplored culture there. When Enterprise was announced I argued pretty vehemently with my friends that we should see the universe from the pov of a civilian cargo ship...that was before I knew Firefly was coming.
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Originally posted by Eric:
Most having to do with time travel.
Yep, that pretty much sums up Trek in its entirety. I mean, how many times can you travel back to 20th century Earth?
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While not my favorite Trek series, Voyager should be watched. It was a little flat, lots of rehashed plots, but overall not bad. I'm surprised the space time continuum still holds with all the meddling Janeway did. Someone else mentioned that they came to care for the crews of the other Treks and not Voyager's or Enterprise's, that's true for me as well. In Voyager, the situation was always more important than the character development. Personalities would just suddenly be different. Enterprise screws with Trek timelines and canon pretty regularly. It's kinda fun if you forget it's a Trek show. B&B (Berman & Bragga) ruined Trek. I hate to say it, but it's true.
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What's wrong you ask? I didn't see any thing wrong with either series, I've loved all of Star Trek's re-incarnations, and the original, though I grew up on TNG, I enjoyed DS9,Voyager and Enterprise. I also loved the Original Star Wars Trilogy, the new trilogy needed better direction.
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I liked Voyager enough to get the Time-Travel and Borg collections, they'll hold me for now; many eps were just okay...not great like the ones on the collections...
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Most people have already stated the obvious problems of recycled plots, reliance on holodeck emergencies etc. But both shows do have some good points even if they are problematic.
The EMH in Voyager is a great character, particularly in early seasons. So was Seven later on (although I preferred Kes).
Enterprise had some very good stories and an actor from my hometown!!
The problem with it for me was that it just changed too much from the original series. It never quite seemed to fit (and I really didn't like that they called the ship Enterprise and thereby changed Trek history. All those paintings and models we'd seen in the background of TNG and the movies suddenly meant nothing as there was one ship missing)!
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Oh yes, I love the Doctor. He was great..why? because he developed and changed. I like Data too, so maybe I just have a thing for AI.
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