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What's wrong with Star Trek Voyager, and Enterprise?

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:42 AM

I'm into Star Trek. I love DS9, The Next Generation, and the original series.
Are Voyager, and Enterprise really as bad as most people say. I was looking forward to watching these on dvd, but most of the things I hear about these two series are pretty bad. Can someone give me an idea of what to expect?

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:48 AM

IMHO, Brannon and Bragga were the Killers of the Trek franchise. They always fell back on the easy way out of everything. They overused the Holo-deck. There was never any real fear of a major character dying. They rehashed old story ideas constantly.

The absolute best season of Enterprise was, sadly, the last. When B&B were in the background. The absolute best episodes on Enterprise were the last ones based in the Mirror Universe.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 3:54 AM

I was never much of a fan of Voyager, but I did like Enterprise. Though I think the biggest problem with both of them is overexposure. Star Trek has been run into the ground. It needs to take a couple of decades rest and then come back with fresh ideas. But if you like the TNG, you’ll probably like Voyager and Enterprise.



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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:21 AM

I love Voyager. It may have something to do with the fact that it was the incarnation of ST that was one while I was growing up, but regardless. It got a little tired near the end, but I was invested in the characters so it really didn't hurt my opinion of the show. I guess it was just refreshing to see a crew in such a radically different situation. Also, I think Voyager was really one of the first series to hint that there were many aspects of the future and the Federation mentality that took away what makes life great (independence, a life without rampant technology, etc.). Just my opinion.



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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 4:59 AM

Star Trek: Enterprise is my favorite of the Trek series because it seems the most reallistic and is closer to our time period. Everytime I watch an episode of it, I feel the spirit of adventure unlike when I watch an episode of the other Trek series. And I also think Enterprise has the best opening theme of all the Treks, as it best represents what Trek is supposed to be about. I honestly can't see how people say TOS or TNG is better because, let's face it, those two Treks are FILLED TO THE BRIM with cheesy, unreallistic stories. I mean, how many times can you have a mysterious alien entity take control of the ship/posses the characters.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:24 AM

I never really saw either. My old man loved Voyager but didn't care for Enterprise. He pretty much grew up with Trek. He hates Star Wars too which really suprises me since he pretty much loves everything Sci-Fi.

I got into DS9 when it was on earlier in the morning on Spike TV. I think my favorite episode was the one with the tribbles when they went back in time somehow and you saw Kirk and Cisco on the same ship and they actually shook hands and everything. This episode is just one of the many reasons I don't believe anything that I see on TV no matter how real it looks.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:54 AM

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I think my favorite episode was the one with the tribbles when they went back in time somehow and you saw Kirk and Cisco on the same ship and they actually shook hands and everything. This episode is just one of the many reasons I don't believe anything that I see on TV no matter how real it looks.


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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 8:04 AM

That's it! Truly awesome. Even if you hated DS9, it's worth a download and a watch.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:39 PM

Voyager is good. It had great potential, but usually decided to play it safe. Numerous shuttles were destroyed, critical damage was repaired between episodes, etc. The writers had no clue what to do with the Borg, so Picard's "Great White Whale" was downgraded to Flipper. Plus the series finale apparently happened in some alternate universe where Janeway had lost her self-confidence, Chakotay was a hormonally-driven teenager and Seven was a giggly schoolgirl.

What was wrong with Enterprise: Nothing. My second favourite Trek (after DS9, and that's more a reflection of DS9 than Enterprise). I loved the Xindi arc (and hope to see more Xindi in future Treks), and T'Pol is my favourite character from any televised Trek.

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Wednesday, October 4, 2006 7:04 PM

Even if you say you haven't seen them, you have. You've seen EVERY EPISODE. Because they're all recycled plot lines from previous series. Most having to do with time travel.

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