Male and Female Imponderables - Mad World
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UPDATED: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 16:46
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The first time I heard the song was the night I picked up the Dropkick's CD, and when I heard the date, I thought it was a continuation (if you will) of Motorhead's 1916, an astounding piece of work about honor and horror of war.......even if Lemmy is the antithesis of anything you would listen to, this song is worth a listen, here is Lemmy singing (yes, I did say singing) with a cello and accordion, and no guitars or bass.......if you've heard it, then you can see where I thought the Murphies were tipping their hat to Motorhead, until I learned otherwise.....
WE'RE GONNA CRASH? I DON'T WANNA CRASH!
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Chris,
I found it at:
http://www.greatwar.nl/frames/default-mcbride.html
It is absolutely beautiful. I read the words before I clicked on to listen to the song. There are tears in my eyes. Thanks so much for sharing this.
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All I would say is this.......I have done some pretty dreadful things in my younger life, and burned a lot of bridges with people who cared about me.......and I wish to hell and back I could rebuild those bridges, and most people will not, and ya know what? it hurts like a motherfucker when you really have to bear witness to your own wreckage. If someone has made an effort to turn his or her life around, then what does the hour or so to sit and drink a beer with that person cost? if he is honest about it, then you will be glad you did, and you will have saved him from some pain.........and in the event he is full of shit, you can at least look in the mirror and tell yourself you gave him the chance..........either way, I think you come out ahead.
WE'RE GONNA CRASH? I DON'T WANNA CRASH!
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Hello ChrisMoorhead:
I went to the website VerseExplorer found and listened to the song by Eric Bogle. Have now placed that site in my favorites folder.
I have visited many Civil War battlefields and walked through they military cemeteries that are alongside them. That song expresses the feeling you get when you walk past the graves of the men who fought there.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you;
Traveler
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Whats not to love about Mark Harmon and Jodie Foster?
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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Hello VerseExplorer:
Priscilla was busy, but these films are B pictures that no one will create DVD's of them, if any footage is left to make a copy from. The Flash Gordon serials got a cult following so they have been saved. Sort of an early version of Firefly, but not the quality. The Flash Gordon serials were made for a much younger audience and the plots show this. But you gotta love them. For all their poor writing, acting, and special effects. The special effects are a hoot. Little spaceships hanging on strings. You have to see it, I can't describe them in words.
I just listened to the song about the soldier's gravestone. I have studied war a great deal and learned one thing. War sucks!
Thank you for looking up the filmography;
Traveler
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I'm glad ya'll liked it, cept for Browncoatjim, who already knew about it. Don't worry, I don't take offense, I'm glad someone else shares similar interests. I take it that you're from Boston? I don't have that pleasure myself, but I'm of Scottish/Irish heritage, so I got love for Irish America.
As for war... it doesn't have to be as ugly as we've made it. I believe that there are certain things that we must accept and understand about it.
1) Although the most preferable choice would be for war to never happen, that is simply not reality. As long as singular people come to confrontation on any point, they will convince larger groups to side with them.
2) If you accept this, then looming over about how it "shouldn't" be that way is useless. The next logical choice, in my eyes, is accepting it from a factual and pragmatic point of view. In doing so, you recognize that just because you come to conflict with someone about something does not mean that you have to have negative feelings about it.
3) If people begin a movement towards not approaching conflict out of emotion, then conflicts based on emotion will cease to exist. The remaining conflicts can be handled with more clarity and concern for preservation. All great military strategist even dating back to ancient times, who had little regard for human life, recognized the pragmatic value of preserving the enemy instead of killing them. Sun-Tzu, Niccolo Machiavelli, Karl von Clausewitz, etc.
I've often thought that the poorest part of this line of thinking was that people could conflict without emotion, which might be almost as much of a pipe dream as total peace. Still, I think it much more likely that people would be willing to accept "I've come to a conflict and must now resolve it" over "I must prevent coming into any conflict at all.".
Why do we consider war such a tragedy anyways? The major loss of human life is probably the most obvious answer. So many loved ones never coming back to see their families. But this is a selfish way of thinking. People must die at different times for different reasons. Getting upset over it leads more to anger than anything else, which just perpetuates the hate, the killing. It seems to me that although immediate conflict is inevitable to some degree, that perpetuated conflict is preventable. That nearly everyone is unable to clearly identify a difference between the two is deeply regrettable.
It we are to gain a greater appreciation of life, we must first gain a great appreciation for death.
If we are to learn the value of and ways to make peace, we must first learn the value of and ways to make war.
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"Pain is your friend, it is your ally. It will keep you awake, and angry, and remind you to finish the mission and get the hell home. But you know the best thing about pain? It let's you know that you're not dead yet."
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Traveler,
Some of the B movies do actually show up on the Classic Movie channels. I have seen The Women a couple of times. It's an interesting portrayl of women's: roles, values, gossip, fidelity, and infidelity. I can set my TIVO to automatically pick in up in case it airs again. I can burn a copy for you if you're interested. Although I don't know how long Hairdresser #1 is actually on the screen.
I have seen a few episodes of the Flash Gordon serial. They are funny to watch. Especially when you compare them to the special effect of movies made today.
You mentioned that you've walked Civil War cemetaries. I love genealogy, so I have walked many a cemetaries in the mid west especially in Nebraska, Illinois, and the Mythical Land of Iowa. You do start to wonder about the lives they led, and certainly about the lives of the men and women that fought during our wars. "War sucks." Very true. The song captures that thought.
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VerseExplorer:
I don't have cable so I don't get to see all the movie channels. I have searched for DVD's with her name, but only Flash Gordon appears. What got me angry was they made two other Flash Gordon serials and did not use her. But just like Firefly I am happy to have this small portion. One must always be greatful for what we have. If you come across her that would be wonderful.
Thank you very much;
Traveler
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Wow - there have been so many responses since I managed to log on last night!
Jailbait.. *gasp* you gave me such a fright! (LOL!!)
Awwwww... Penguin - you know I feel the same way! 
Chris - you chose some films I like too - though I agree that there's little to be embarassed about - I still tear up in the original 'Terminator', the love scene is gorgeous - but the unrelenting fight for survival is terrific and the sense of hope at the end... I did like the 2nd movie but found it a little slow... I know what you mean about the ending. I'm just starting Aikido & the kids I nanny have been doing it for some time... I have seen Steven Segal films and though the 'acting' is apalling I do enjoy his martial arts stuff... (but don't tell any of the browncoats who think I'm a serious actor that... OK?)
I do know that song too - and yes, it was by an Australian & 'the Band Played Waltzing Matilda' - both those songs bring a tear to my eye - I am studying WW1 as I have several relatives who died or served there, I want to understand war better - though I'm sure I couldn't get as into it as you Chris - lets just say I am mostly interested in it's impact on those left at home - the women traditionally.
Verseexplorer - another thing we have in common 
- I am a cemetery wanderer from way back - my Mum and I enjoy a ramble through a little country plot or a church yard so much - my love of history is made so much more real when I see the little monuments to real people who lived & died in the very town I am in...
Traveller - I know sweetie - I know - my 'tragic crush' was on an Aussie actor called Jon Blake - (tall dark & handsome & so very talented) was my dream man - he had just finished filming 'The Lighthorseman' and was driving home when he swerved to avoid a car, parked on the wrong side of the road with it's lights off - he hit another car and will be in a 'vegetative state' for the rest of his life! I thought he was better looking than anyone I know in real life & had the talent to enjoy an amazing career! *sigh* ... is it more tradgic to live without a life or to die before it's lived...
ooops - it looks like I should have strated that ramble thread!
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