What are your *least* favorite Firefly moments?
POSTED BY: Okkay
UPDATED: Saturday, February 14, 2004 16:39
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I know the basis of discussion was on "bad" scenes, but the topic thread was "Your least favorite Firefly moment".
Still, I appreciate your understanding, Misguided.
***Never judge a book by its movie***
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Kaylee getting shot.
Book getting shot.
Good stories both. I just don't like seeing the crew near death.
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Kaylee being threatened by Early is the most painful scene. Rape is so horrific and Kaylee is the character I most relate too. It’s so gut-wrenching to watch, but Jewel Staite/Summer Glau’s acting and a happy ending, keep the episode one of my favorites.
My least favorite scene however would be most of Heart of Gold!
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I agree, the one with Early being all disgusting is just....disturbing. What's with Joss and having his characters being raped...or tortured and such? Ah well, Firefly is awesome anyways.
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Bourne wrote:
Saturday, January 31, 2004 20:23
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You shoot DESERTERS. Usually HANG mutineers :)
You're right. From the yardarm when it's expedient.
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In War Stories, when the crew is mounting a rescue of the Captain, Gina/Zoe breaks cover, does a grade-school gym-class somersault, then leisurely double-draws and guns down a henchman WHO'S HAD A BEAD ON HER THE WHOLE TIME. ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
That is probably their worst scene. Especially if you've ever watched Cleopatra 2525 and have seen the type of atheletic moves Gina is capbable of pulling off.
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There is no way in hell that Mal would collude with Crazy Girl after she sent his crew to almost certain death in OMR....In OMR Saffron comes across as something of a genius, but she would have to be so, so very stupid to think that Mal would go in with her on that deal.
I think that Saffron's problem there was the fact that even though she thinks that everyone plays everyone, she also thinks that she herself is too clever & too aware to be played.
Saffron told Mal that he was the most gullible person she'd ever marked, which is a pretty normal attitude of a con person toward a mark. It says to me that she didn't think he had a) the brains, and b)the sneaky turn of mind to double-cross her. If she'd bothered to think for a moment, she'd remember that Mal & Co had beaten her at her own game at least three times before Trash -- Inara realized Saffron was playing them, Mal figured out how to disable the net, they tracked her to that cabin with apparently very little trouble.
I honestly think that it never occurred to Saffron that a entire ship's crew could play her without her catching on -- because she always seems to think she's the smartest, toughest one in the room, the one who's in control. She was still thinking of them as marks to be screwed with.
I'll tell you one thing that bothers me, though, about Trash -- why, oh why, didn't Mal just leave her in the house for the Feds to snatch? I'd've high-tailed it out of there, leaving her with her ex the second I'd realized that man had called the Feds -- though it may be possible I'm a little more vindictive than Mal.
"But she was naked! And all...articulate!"
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Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
[As a side point, I was also moved to discomfort by the "on your knees" scene in Heart of Gold but nobody brings that up.
Going to agree with you on this one. It makes me squirm in my seat everytime I see it.
Also this may just be me nitpicking, but in HoG, Mal and Nandi making love, sweat rolling down their bodies. Ok, we've got fully clothed Wash and Zoe going about their business in the hot sun (as well as completely randomly talking about a baby that is never brought up again) and everyone else looking fresh as a peach. But in the night, when desert temperatures get verylow we have 2 naked people practically dripping. Now there could be explanations but a)they wern't exactly vigorous and b) if they had heaters turned on then why were they cool as cucumbers while drinking? I'm sure that it was just supposed to add to the scene, but it just looked so unnatural and out of place that it threw me.
That being said, I loved everything else from HoG and The Message is probably my least favourite episode due to the crappy plot.
Those who restrain desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained.
-William Blake
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(as well as completely randomly talking about a baby that is never brought up again)
I'm sure it would have been brought up again - but there were only two episodes after this!
Anyways, I'm glad to see I'm not the onlyone who hated HoG. I, too, thought it uncharactoristic of Mal to take the job initially. One thing I really like about him is how he cares so much for his crew, and so little for anyone else. This whole episode just seemed...wrong.
And yeah, as someone mentioned - in the future, there's no such thing as locks for your vehicles? Pretty dumb.
Modern hovercraft do, I beleive, roughly 55MPH at top speed, perhaps slightly slower. Horses do maybe 35.
One cool part - er, the cool part - of HoG is when Inara is crying in the corner. Well, it's not cool...but, when she'd talked to Mal, I was a bit upset that she wasn't a bit upset. With seeing her cry came the realization of just how much she cares for Mal.
-Steve
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Anyway, back to the point - my least favourite moment is the end of the Heart of Gold where Nandi is shot. I know there had to be a reason why she wasn't around to finish her conversation with Mal about Inara's feelings and all that - but this was pure adventure serial cliche, and it just annoys me!
Sorry to be jumping into the discussion so late. Only registered yesterday.
I couldn´t agree more with BarneyT. There was no reason for killing her. She was no threat. If there´s something I respect Whedon for it´s his originallity. This moment was not his best work.
Even more annoying was the dripping-in-sweat-while-making-love scene, in that same episode. It didn´t make sence to me. It was filmed like as if this was an act between two people deeply in love - even though it was clearly meant to be just sex. Unnessesary to include that scene I think. Mal got some and Inara got hurt. We got it already.
(Btw, what a find Morena was as Inara! That scene in "Our mrs Reynolds" when she thinks Mal is dead and rushes down the ladder... Wow! You can feel her heartbreak and pain.)
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This is nit-picky I know but in "Ariel" a great episode, I have that I don't quite believe it feeling when Wash and Kaylee find and make flight-worthy an ambulance in a few hours/days. I always feel like it's too easy. Not important really but that would be one of mine.
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